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Azzanation on 02 June 2023
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Machiavellian said:
Azzanation said:

It doesn't matter what you want, the market will determine who remains and who does not.  The market will weed out companies that cannot provide a product to entice customers and vendors to their platform.  The dominate platform today may be gone tomorrow.  Have we not seen that just in the gaming business alone.  There were many players that have come and gone, there will be many players in the store front that will come and go.  Some who are big today may be marginal tomorrow, that is how competition works.

Exactly, and soon we will see another one go. 

The situation is that a monopoly is never great because sooner or later, the companies will always fight to maintain the monopoly more than they will fight to stay competitive.  Its not like we do not have years of evidence to this fact.  Also you continue to state that ESG come into being because of Steam, but I totally disagree, ESG came into being just like all they services, to make money.  Its not about them trying to take something away from Valve as them trying to entice customers to their platform, that is what competition is.

Depends on the market. It worked perfectly fine for decades on PC. EGS tried taking stuff away, they literally moneyhatting games off Steam, that's taking away from customers to benefit their own inferior service. If EGS wants me to cross over than they need to do it with their own games and offer me a better experience. They are not.

This point does not make sense, the only way that the streaming market would take off is if all the OEMs would go streaming, not the 3rd place console.  The 3rd place console has no authority to dictate the market.  No one is going to flock to MS service when they can get a hardware download service in PS+ that also will have all the exclusive console games from 3rd party developers studios and Sony own output.  Are you forgetting that Sony also has PS+ which is the same as GP with the only exception of putting their own first party games on the service day one.  The company that would actually be hurt the most would be MS.  First, without console hardware, their 3rd party day one release, how will that work.  As a studio why would you go with MS when now when there is no hardware option outside of the PC.  You have a game that you are making for consoles, your only real choice would be Sony or Nintendo.  MS without a platform would be your absolute last choice.  Next we get back to the same point, would Sony or Nintendo allow GP on their platform to compete with their own online service.  As multiple people have stated, if Sony or Nintendo did, that service would be neutered because there is no way Sony and Nintendo is going to let another service eat into their own.

This is why MS is buying up publishers, once they own the big publishers, they can determine the push and need for their services. If MS own CoD and made it only playable on GP and Sony want CoD, guess what Sony will have to do? See my point? 

The problem with using TV and Music compared to games is that TV and Music are not interactive.  Meaning that each can be buffered so the stream does not skip or have issues while its sent to your home.  You can still enjoy those streaming options even though they are not at the quality level if you purchased a BluRay 4K disc.  Steaming a game is totally different.  Case in point, I used XCloud to play Marvel Avengers game because I wanted to know if it was any good.  Just walking around on the Helicarrier was a laggy mess.  Every time I turned around the delay and laggyness nearly caused me to throw up because of how bad it was.  Now this is with my gigbit net connection with no body at home at the time using the net.  That experience is not going to be something anyone is going to sub to.  I did the same thing with Ghostwire Toyoko which was not as bad but Ghostwire Toyoko controls are such a pain in the butt that online its a freak mess.  I had to fiddle with the controls in order to get a sweet spot which took about 30 mins of playing around with the settings but the thing is compared to local, those control issues are magnified even greater.

Yes, unfortunately its still an issue but nothing is unplayable. Majority of people wouldn't won't care how it's played, as long as they can play it and gain access to it. On the hardcore audience, they won't be happy, but if it saves parents $700+ buying consoles for their kids, than their kids and family will just opt for the second best thing.