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Azzanation on 20 May 2023
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Pemalite said:
Azzanation said:

We have no evidence their next console is another traditonal console either.

Correct. Which is why I never asserted anything like you have.

Azzanation said:

False, Nintendo was still in the market basically taking whatever leftovers were left that didn't jump on the PS bandwagon, meaning the industry was spread too thin for the 3rd company to stay relevant. Sega could not compete with the Deals Sony were making and even Nintendo struggled to compete at the time. One had to go.

Nintendo never competed against the Dreamcast. That is a fact.

The Nintendo 64 sales had waned when the Dreamcast launched. - And Nintendo never released the Gamecube when the Dreamcast was on the market.

Ergo. Nintendo never competed with the Dreamcast when Sega folded.

Ergo. By your logic, the industry is only able to support one company.

Azzanation said:

These added features mean little and wont be missed or are changing the industry. SO no, i wont thank EGS for trying to divide my PC library, removing games from the Steam store to sell on their own trash heap unfinished App.

They already have changed the industry.

Either way, you are engaging in a logical fallacy and shifting the goal post.
You asked for "one" example of where competition has benefited Steam. - Now that's not good enough?

Come on Azzanation, you need to do better than that.

Azzanation said:

Thats up to the companies to make deals to suit. At the end of the day, MS have bangers that i no doubt would say Sony and Nintendo want. Its a safe assumption.

Let's not falsely assume, let's actually base things on evidence.


Azzanation said:

So be it, you dont think a Trillion dollar company is capable? 

You still aren't reading my posts. How does Microsoft being a trillion dollar company have anything to do with porting software to server hardware?

Azzanation said:

And they have nothing against those installing Windows and using GP on their own Hardware.

That is a policy that can change later on as it's not officially endorsed.



Azzanation said:



Until they start releasing new games, its a no brainer its slowed down.


When will that happen exactly? We have been promised new games for years now.

1) Okay.

2) Nintendo had Sega as a major competitor with the Mega Drive and Genesis, it was healthy competition when it was two major platforms. Sony entered, Sega instantly struggled, there was no room for Sega to compete. Look at the history of the console market. There has always been 2 major platforms and the 3rd platform changes from company to company. You have seen it with your own eyes.

3) EGS hasn't changed the market, not the way you are thinking they did. Let me ask you, what did EGS change exactly for the better? EGS tried to lower Steams cut on games and failed. Steam still takes 30% (With the exception of high end sales). Why does Steam need to take a less cut on games? For what purpose does this benefit the consumers? Your example of Discord was a poor one. In what world is Discord a Steam competitor? 

4) So you are saying Sony don't want Bethesda's big games? I would say my point is more in favor than yours.

5) MS is already making deals with other Streaming services to play Xbox games, so where is this hard porting process you continue to bring up? From what we are seeing, is they have signed multiple 10+ year deals with other services to play Xbox games, so where's the porting issue? I dont understand this point? If Nvidia can Stream Xbox games, so can PS and Nintendo.

6) Assumption. You cannot run a business on assumptions.

7) Maybe when they announce and release some new games maybe...

Last edited by Azzanation - on 20 May 2023