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Machiavellian on 06 May 2023
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Azzanation said:
Machiavellian said:

MS will always be a threat to Sony because Sony has a service just like GP called PS+ but one thing it does not do is day one release of their own games.  GP directly competes with Sony services so why would Sony let such a service on their console that would compete with PS+.  Second, Sony also have a cloud platform in PS Now that is part of their premium subscription just like XCloud is part of MS ultimate sub.  This means that GP on all levels competes with Sony and their services and there is no incentive to let MS run their services on their platform to compete with PS+.

Sony also will have an ambition to enter more Cloud based services or expand their own to multiple devices.  Your point only look at today but I never got the feeling that Sony would not want to enter those markets, they are just not moving as fast as MS because they have a commanding lead in consoles.  MS whole plan is disruptive to Sony and how they want to move and how fast they want to do it.  So no, advancing MS strategy and accelerating their ability to expand beyond consoles is not a benefit to Sony and no incentive for them to allow GP on their platform.  As far as Sony is concerned, they would be a much happier company if MS left the market period then having to worry about what other disruptive things a trillion dollar company can do to unseat their market position.  By the time Sony is ready to compete in the device market, they could find themselves way behind MS which is not a scenario they want to be in.  

If you kind of think about it Sony has been more reactive to MS then proactive when it comes to anything not hardware related.  They were more reactive to putting games on PC, reactive to expanding PS+ to compete with GP and they are still reactive to driving into the devices market because it marginalized their console.  This is why they really fought hard to block the ABK deal.  Their just isn't any benefit to accelerating MS goal for Sony and they they would need to react to it but at a less financial base.

Also there is nothing stop MS from putting games on PS platform even today.  You forget that if MS want to they can still publish Bethedsa games to PS if they desire.  We are not talking about MS putting their games on PS, we are talking about MS putting GP on PS which is something totally different.

Companies like Sony and MS do deals all the time inside and outside of gaming. MS won't disappear from the gaming industry, they will just remove the hardware requirement. 

Sony will benefit greatly by having Xbox games on PS. They will make more money and that's the bottom line.

If Sony took your logic and completely want to abandon any sort of deal where MS can sell games off PS Platforms, they will be poking a bear a lot bigger than them, and i am referring to outside of gaming. Sony won't act this way because there is too much of a money opportunity to be gained. If Sony says no, then Sony have just given Nintendo and PC a monster advantage because they will most likely end up with all future Xbox and Bestheda games moving forward and Sony wont.

I highly doubt that Sony cares about MS feelings.  Sony already poked the bear with their 3rd party lock out deals and trying everything they can to stop the ABK deal.  There is nothing MS can do about it.  Regulators will not let them buy their way to success as we have seen with the ABK purchase.  MS cannot gain on Sony some way even if all their games were to hit hard, the PS5 is selling like crazy.  There is no incentive for Sony to allow GP that directly compete with their services on their platform.  If MS get rid of their hardware then they would be at the mercy of Sony because how else they are going to grow their business.  

Sony would act that way because the money they would make from MS is easily going to be made up by all the other companies out their putting their games only on PS.  Sony would Nuke MS platform and cripple the company in consoles, cripple GP to only PC, cripple MS cloud initiative and basically force MS to leave the market.  Sony doesn't care about Bethesda games, they have enough first and 3rd party games to continue to grow their customer base.  The promise of MS games isn't slowing the sale of PS5 consoles and as I stated while yes, Sony could make money by letting MS put games on their system, they would make even more by MS leaving the market.  Crippling MS ability to grow their gaming division is way better than trying to fight MS trying to disrupt the status quo.

Right now, MS need consecutive years of great hardware and software in order to grow GP and their gaming division.  Dropping hardware would instantly make just about every gamer feel the company is about to bail the industry and they would bail on the platform.  There is no scenario I see where GP and MS games grow at this point in time without hardware and successfully bringing AAA games to market.