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Machiavellian on 05 May 2023
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Azzanation said:
Machiavellian said:

Naw, Sony would still consider MS a threat no matter if they sold hardware or not.  If you had a chance to totally nuke MS ability to gain any leverage why would you give them any outs.  You kicking their butts on hardware and software sold, there is no incentive for Sony to let them compete on their hardware with their services when Sony is trying to do the same thing but at a slower pace.  There is no scenario if I am Sony that I would ever give MS any leverage that can come back and slap them in the face when you can just say no and worry about nothing.  The 3D chess move for Sony is a "Hell NO, go fish" because at the end of the day, their is no incentive for them to help MS.

No they wont. How would MS be a threat to Sony by offering games to the PS platform that will boost PS console sales even further and Sony profits off? MS don't need to put subs on PS either, they can just use Sony's hardware to sell digital software that also makes Sony money. You really need to learn to play chess as well as know what you are talking about. Sony make money on Xbox games sold on PS. More games sold = more profits. Sony and MS don't hate each other like you think to believe. It's a business not a sport. There is no plastic trophy at the end of each generation.

Pemalite said:

They didn't at the time. Correct. I never said they did.

However, they do exist now. And they are the competitor to Steam.

Every market needs competition.

The current Console industry is full of bad competition. Xbox hardware is not needed.

MS will always be a threat to Sony because Sony has a service just like GP called PS+ but one thing it does not do is day one release of their own games.  GP directly competes with Sony services so why would Sony let such a service on their console that would compete with PS+.  Second, Sony also have a cloud platform in PS Now that is part of their premium subscription just like XCloud is part of MS ultimate sub.  This means that GP on all levels competes with Sony and their services and there is no incentive to let MS run their services on their platform to compete with PS+.

Sony also will have an ambition to enter more Cloud based services or expand their own to multiple devices.  Your point only look at today but I never got the feeling that Sony would not want to enter those markets, they are just not moving as fast as MS because they have a commanding lead in consoles.  MS whole plan is disruptive to Sony and how they want to move and how fast they want to do it.  So no, advancing MS strategy and accelerating their ability to expand beyond consoles is not a benefit to Sony and no incentive for them to allow GP on their platform.  As far as Sony is concerned, they would be a much happier company if MS left the market period then having to worry about what other disruptive things a trillion dollar company can do to unseat their market position.  By the time Sony is ready to compete in the device market, they could find themselves way behind MS which is not a scenario they want to be in.  

If you kind of think about it Sony has been more reactive to MS then proactive when it comes to anything not hardware related.  They were more reactive to putting games on PC, reactive to expanding PS+ to compete with GP and they are still reactive to driving into the devices market because it marginalized their console.  This is why they really fought hard to block the ABK deal.  Their just isn't any benefit to accelerating MS goal for Sony and they they would need to react to it but at a less financial base.

Also there is nothing stop MS from putting games on PS platform even today.  You forget that if MS want to they can still publish Bethedsa games to PS if they desire.  We are not talking about MS putting their games on PS, we are talking about MS putting GP on PS which is something totally different.

Last edited by Machiavellian - on 05 May 2023