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Azzanation on 03 May 2023
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Conina said:

Or YOU need to read the forum rules: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=247191#content

4. THREAD CREATION - Thread titles and content must be descriptive and on topic.

If your thread title ain't on topic with the thread's content, it is your fault!
Not the fault of the people who answer the thread title.

A) Thread Titles:

  1. Need to accurately describe the subject content
  2. Should not use deceptive hooks to lure people in
  3. Should not be used to pose simple questions

The OP literally states the answer to the actual posts that people are replying to. They are just reading the headline and quick replying on something that if they read the OP would understand. For that i have changed the headline since thats all people are doing is stop reading from there.

Zkuq said:

Doesn't look like your line of thinking regarding the matter is working very well, so looks like wishful thinking instead of striving for good results, but whatever floats your boat. Anyway, no more offtopic from me.

Doesn't have to be. I am stating as a business assumption not an emotional consumer assumption.

JWeinCom said:

That is not an answer to the replies. It's a response to an entirely different question. Whether or not Microsoft has a responsibility to make Xboxes has nothing to do with whether or not we need them to. And, again, since that is the question you asked in the title, that's what people should and did think you expected them to answer. 

Nothing in the rest of the post would lead them to believe otherwise. In the OP it mentions what is in Sony's best interests, the best interests of gamers, and what's best for the industry. It ends by addressing what's good for "everyone". So if people read the whole post, and not just the sentence you pulled out, they would naturally think "we" encompassed all of those parties, and that the comment about Microsoft's responsibility was at most facet of the issue. If your entire point was to say that MS doesn't have a responsibility to make consoles, then that's just absolutely pointless. I don't believe anyone except Uncle Ben would argue otherwise. 

I meant all this as constructive, although admittedly snarky, feedback. You can choose to be petulant about it and insist that everyone else is the problem. Or, as I recommended, you can at least consider the fact that you did not communicate effectively. You can simply say "Hey guys. What I was really hoping to discuss was..." 

Your choice, but if there was something you felt was worthy of discussion, I'd go with that second option.

This is spoken all from a business perspective. Ill change the headline.

Correct, Xbox stops making hardware will benefit everyone. Nothing changes.

the-pi-guy said:

Why do you think Sony is making CoD money and MS is making no money?

They both make lots of money off third party revenue. MS makes money off CoD, Fortnite, even Destiny, even if it's not as much as Sony is making.  

Azzanation said:

Xbox hardware has always been a controversial product. Every Gen they come out and cannot make a big enough dent within the industry to maintain momentum. So the question is why does MS hang around in the hardware market? Is it to keep Sony in check? Thats not their responsibility and shouldn't have to bleed billions creating console hardware just to balance the industry out. This also falls on the individuals who disagree with that statement, if you cannot trust the company you invest in than you are investing in the wrong company. 

The 360 did fine. The Xbox Series S|X are great consoles even if they don't sell as much as the PS5 does.

And no, you shouldn't trust any company. The interest of a company is to a great extent at odds of the interest of the consumer. Companies exist to make money. 

Sony have the marketing rights to CoD.

360 Lost MS $4b at the end of its life. Only reason they stayed in the industry was because of the subs. Something they don't need to rely on Hardware for anymore.

LudicrousSpeed said:

Microsoft makes more money on services and transactions on their network than they would just selling games on other platforms.

Yes, however Sony wont allow MS Subs on PS if Sony have to directly compete with Xbox hardware. That could possibly change if MS stopped competing in that department.