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Ryuu96 said:
CaptainExplosion said:

In other words it IS about NATO?

And Turkey as an ally would be better if Erdogan was removed from power.

Nah, what I mean is that Putin never invaded Ukraine because "NATO" and it's an excuse that his moron defenders use but they'll probably also ignore how massive of a tactical fuck up this is if it was about NATO. Only reason Russia invaded Ukraine was imperialism, they wanted to take what wasn't theirs but nevertheless Putin's invasion has caused a significant increase in NATO's influence and power.

Erdogan is a piece of shit, I agree, at least he stands on the right side in regards to Russia but there's also his human rights abuses, him being a dickhead to Sweden, him pitting both sides against each other when it suits him, etc. Turkey can never join EU as long as Erdogan is in power Imo. We can hope Erdogan's opposition wins because they're in favour of both improving relations with EU and supporting Sweden's entry into NATO.

Now if only Erdogan was booted from office, and Sweden joins NATO, preferably with the strength and unwavering force of their Viking ancestors.