Russia and Ukraine flashpoint

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Ryuu96 said:

crissindahouse said:

So, since Germany allows to send Leopard tanks to Ukraine, where are all those countries which were supposed to send some? I find it kinda weird that countries like Finland talked about it but now they are like "nahhh".

•  14 Leopard 2A6s [To be delivered]
•  4 Leopard 2A4s [To be delivered]
•  14 Leopard 2A4s [To be delivered]
•  3 Leopard 2A6s [To be delivered]
•  8 Leopard 2A4s [To be delivered]
•  6 Leopard 2A4s [To be delivered]

Disappointing so far, I was definitely expecting more, some use the excuse of needing them for defence but defence against who exactly? Who the hell is attacking us? Who do we need tanks for? We're not fighting hypothetical China with tanks, that'll be an air/sea battle, so are we saving them for Russia? The country which is currently attacking Ukraine? So why not give Ukraine lots of tanks to remove a threat for a very long time.

Finland, I can forgive them a little as they border Russia and aren't currently in NATO but some NATO countries, Spain for example, have hundreds of Leopard 2's.

Side note, I feel sorry for the engineer who has to learn the mechanics/logistics of Leopard 2, Leopard 1, Challenger 2 and Abrams, Lol. Ukraine should have really had hundreds of one model of tank rather than 4.

I let that slide if they are mostly just the active units plus a little reserve (+-20% extra for replacements if one breaks down and for spare parts). If they don't have much more than that I can understand not sending much, but otherwise yeah, they shouldn't be so reluctant then.

Portugal only had 37 Leo 2 to begin with, they can't send much more; Norway had 52, so not much better here. Poland instead opted to send more T-72 and PT-91 to Ukraine (30 additional each) and are probably keeping their Leos in reserve until the K2 tanks start rolling in. German's army was notoriously underfunded and their equipment not in any state of readiness, as such, I didn't expect much more from them. Canada is also a bit disappointing, considering they have 82 Leo 2 (62 A4 and 20 A6M), they could also have gone with 8. For Spain, I don't find numbers on how many 2A4 they have left. But since they should all been replaced by the 2A6-based Leopard 2E about 10-15 years ago, they should have plenty in storage. So only sending 6 looks like a pretty poor showing to me.