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jason1637 said:

shikamaru317 said:

Doesn't seem like the new Redfall gameplay won over any more doubters than the E3 gameplay did last year, like/dislike ratio is just as bad if not worse. Seeing 2.2k likes/1.5k dislikes on the main Bethesda Youtube channel, 413 likes and 228 dislikes on Gamespot reposting, 1.2k likes and 482 dislikes on IGN.

I suspect it is the production value throwing most people off as the gameplay seems good (I was a bit skeptical of the game before but they won me over today with the new Gameplay footage). It just doesn't look like a AAA Xbox Series/PC only exclusive should look. In some ways it looks worse than the now 6 year old Dishonored 2, which had to be able to run on base Xbox One. For instance look at the differences in interior quality here:

The hardwood flooring looks worse than in Dishonored 2, the lantern texture sucks compared to similar pieces of environmental clutter on the desk in Dishonored 2, the clothing textures on the man look very outdated, even the lighting seems worse.

I suspect that after Dishonored 2 underperformed in sales, Bethesda pulled alot of their budget, which is why neither Deathloop nor Redfall looked as good graphically as Dishonored 2. It's a real shame. Hopefully Xbox will give them back a proper AAA budget for their next 2 games from Arkane Lyon and Arkane Austin.

If the game is any good I'm sure it will do well with Gamepass and could get long term support. Arkane games are kinda hard sells based on trailers and gameplay videos imo. 

Yep, while there are definitely alot of dislikes on the videos, if you look at the actual top comments on the videos, most of them are positive, so there are clearly alot of people hyped for it still. I know they won me over, what they showed convinced me that what the director said was right, it does seem to be more Far Cry + Arkane's past Games + Left 4 Dead than it seems to be like Borderlands, like the alpha test leaker originally said it was. I'm not getting Borderlands vibes from it at all really, aside from the enemies seeming a tad bullet spongy much like Borderlands, and both series having tiered loot and 4 playable characters with multiple skill trees each. The dialogue between the 4 characters in this demo also seemed alot better than the dialogue between them in the reveal trailer, which seemed like gen z focused cringe at the time.

While I do wish it had better graphics, I will definitely play it day one thanks to Gamepass.

Last edited by shikamaru317 - on 26 January 2023