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dane007 on 28 December 2022
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I thought its obvious how it will. Benefit gamers but people dont see it. 

1) you don't need an xbox to have access to gamepass. It can be accessed via TV, tablet, mobile phone and pc. The amount of people that uses 1 or all of them is huge. Bigger market to target. 

2) gamepass allows people Inc ountries where they can't afford to buy 70 usd games all the time when new ones comes out. Gamepass is much more affordable for those people. It allows them to play more games then they normally would. That alone is attractive and will attract more gamers or people who are on cusp of being a gamer and want to try it out. 

3) cod games will also be on nintendo. That hasn't been done in while. Nintendo has quite a large fan base. Imagine having cod on the go! Or even warzone.. Adding additional platforms increases the user base. More people get to play cod. Not just cod on Nintendo but cod using xcloud is also viable and a good thing. 

4) having abk studious under ms and having access to gamepass day 1,developers can take risk and make different type of games and put them on gamepass. This greatly benefit gamers as we will get more variety in the type of games we play.. More new ip is always a good thing. Also developers can also revive old famous ip that has been dominant and put them on gamepass. Gamers will benefit as that's more games to play for cheap. 

Gamepass is the most consumer friendly services that has ever graced the console industry. From my experience, I have played games that normally I wouldn't play or try. That alone is great for gamers and developers alike. 

To be honest, this abk deal that sony is trying to prevent has nothing to do with Cod. Sony doesn't want cod to be in gamepass day 1. They don't want the scenario if gamepass vs paying 70 usd for physical copy. They believe that the scenario will take Sony customer base and bring that to ms side. 

Jumpin said:

Mummelmann said:

It benefits gamers that massive conglomerates absorb more and more studios and publishers? You can have any opinion you want, but to see this merger as beneficial to gamers and that it will increase competition is quite the stretch. Let's not forget what happened when Activision and Blizzard merged, it's not like it kickstarted a series of some of the biggest and worst douche moves against gamers and old fans that we ever saw. Blizzard's fall from grace literally ties directly into merging with Activision. In my ideal world, most developers would be independent, or at the very least have complete creative control without publisher meddling and top-down control with maximum profits on behalf of boards being the sole purpose of the industry. I don't want Sony to acquire more studios with the intent of shutting out other gamers on other platforms either.

Basically this. The pro-buyout people are full of shit when it comes to this statement of “it benefits gamers.”

They never explain how it’s beneficial for massive conglomerates to swallow up companies. They also completely ignore the long history of criticism of these sorts of deals being called consistently since the days of Adam Smith.

And then when anyone is pushed about the benefits. They  being up l whataboutisms like “Disney + Fox” - yeah, that was bad too, and the FTC shouldn’t have approved that either. And these manufactured “crusades against big tech” arguments are based on pure stinky sensationalist fantasy. I mean, in reality, the FTC and governments should be on a crusade against big tech—big tech is eating up large portions of the economy more than any other industry right now: they’re basically taking over news and advertisement sectors and that’s something the democratic governments of the world should be against. Anyway, the last time I saw that argument in the forum, the guy even labelled Microsoft as the top tech company, and still supported them swallowing up third parties.

*As a note, I don’t agree that Microsoft is the largest “big tech” company. But the fact that a guy supported the largest big tech company swallowing up third parties really just shows how corrupt the mindset of people are by the advertisement of this idea being beneficial to gamers, without there being any actual truth to that statement.

Bottom line, people shouldn’t blindly support these sorts of corporate gorging deals just because it supports some bias, agenda, or bandwagon they happened to jump on without thinking. Large conglomerates swallowing up other large companies (or smaller competitive companies, for that matter) is unhealthy.