scrapking said:
Norion said:
Due to the success of the Series S I think it's likely they will but I hope they don't so their first party games have better minimum hardware. And I disagree about there not being a PS5 Pro since the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X were both successful and if one of them does it the other has to unless they're ok with being at a big disadvantage power wise throughout the 2nd half of the generation and I don't think Sony would be fine with that.
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How do you define successful? Neither the PS4 Pro nor the One X sold all that well. And they were a lightning-in-a-bottle situation, since the PS4 and the Xbox One were unusually weak compared to 2013 PCs. Add in the rapid adoption of 4K TVs, and you had two reasons to do mid-gen "Pro" consoles.
There's no indication 8K will be coming on strong anytime soon, and the Series X and PS5 aren't nearly as far behind contemporary PCs. And the final nail in the coffin is that die-shrinks may not drive cost reductions. They'll still occur, and they'll save space and reduce heat, but they're not predicted to also drive down costs this generation. That's the whole reason Microsoft launched with the Series S, in fact, rather than keeping some version of the One S around until the Series X dropped in price.
Microsoft predicted the Series X won't drop in price very much. And so far Microsoft's prediction is looking pretty good, what with Sony having actually *raised* prices of the PS5 (in every country but the U.S.) nearly two years after launch. Last-gen that might have been a reduction in the U.S. price, rather than a price increase everywhere else.
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If I have it right after the PS4 Pro launched in Japan a bit over a quarter of PS4's sold there were that model and I doubt it was drastically different from that worldwide so I'd consider that successful. For the One X I remember Mat Piscatella saying it sold well.
They aren't as far behind but will still become low end hardware later this decade so won't be capable of 4K in an increasing number of games in the coming years which would make a more powerful revision needed for 4K in some future games and also needed for improved ray tracing since neither console is good at that.
The cost part could make it tricky though.
