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shikamaru317 on 08 December 2022
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Mandalore76 said:
tsogud said:

Speaking as a nonbinary bisexual I don't prefer voluptuous well-figured characters or beef-cakes with huge buldges. This isn't porn, it's interactive art. I, like many people, prefer realism in characters in games that go for that art style. That doesn't mean these types of characters don't have a place in games. Games that go for campy or satirical style are an exception, like Catherine or Bayonetta (tho I do think Bayo does a pretty good job with portraying powerful women) but the examples pointed out are from games that originally chased the realism art style and tone as evident by the characters.

Also you can't speak for other people or demographics. You spoke for yourself so the convo will be centered on that. You admitted in your post that it might be sexist and I just confirmed it was. That's all. You think women with flat butts and chests and asymmetrical faces are ugly and you value big jiggly breasts and only want to look at that. Your post literally admitted to objectifying women, albeit virtual women. That's sexist. Sorry, but it is.

Wait, so your position is that large breasted women don't occur in nature?  You realize that kind of statement and sentiment is just as harmful to the mental psyche of the women growing up with larger than average breastsizes as the opposite sentiment was to the smaller breasted women who grew up in the 80's and 90's?  The same way that the latter group felt pressured to get breast enlargements because of perceived "societal preferences", the former group now feel pressured by society to get breast reductions.  Neither is mentally healthy.  It's one thing to complain about an entire game being populated by overly-endowed female physiques, but to target one character here and there and say "this is not realistic" is a bridge too far.  I mean, think of how ridiculous it is to look at this picture from the original Final Fantasy VII and say that Tifa Lockhart isn't a realistic character because her boobs are bigger than Aerith's and Yuffie's, or Jessie, or Elena for that matter.  

You started off by saying what you personally prefer, which is fine.  To each their own as the saying goes.  But you then went on to declare that what you don't prefer has no place in "realistic games".  Sorry, but preference and realism are two very different things.  The human form comes in all shapes and sizes.  It's ironic to choose one of them and call it "unrealistic" while declaring that it only has a place in cartoons and campy artstyles.  All you are really doing is replacing one bias for another.

Yep, I always find it funny when people say that the Tomb Raider figure doesn't exist in the real world, when there are plenty of examples of that body type in the real world. The detractors of sexy female game characters are also almost always the same people who claim that the industry is changing because the gaming demographic is changing, that the design of characters are changing to better represent the changing demographics of gamers. Yet if that was truly the reason behind the shift in character design, it would mean that there are no sexy, curvy women playing video games, because the recent trend in playable female character design in games is to make them look more plain, and less sexy. And yet we know it's not true that no sexy women play games, all you have to do is look at Twitch to find many thousands of sexy female gamers. Don't they deserve representation too? I've seen quite a few tweets from attractive female gamers in recent years complaining about the lack of sexy playable female characters in games these days.