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KLXVER said:
Chazore said:

I'm not here to debate what should be done, I'm saying it for how it currently looks, and it's pandering toward celebs/ads/sponsors and partly journos, not the smaller indie devs or the influencers out there that actually help the smaller dev games being discovered, let alone becoming hits over night.

We don't need them to talk about their games for hours though, TGA doesn't last for 6 hrs, at best it lasts around 2hrs if at all, and you only ever need 5-10 mins a pop for an interview, and the dev doesn't have to talk about "here's what we coded", because no gamer is going to care nor understand code, instead talk about your inspirations, what drove you to make your game, why you chose the style that it has, what influencers have done to help your game be known, thanking ppl for buying your game.

I can tell you now that no one on this planet is going to give a shit that a multi million/billion dollar corp is going to go "thanks for buying $70 game", but others out there would care that the smaller dev gets the chance, because it means they can create future projects, whilst a million dollar company is almost always expected 100% of the time to craft a new game, not so much with an indie dev that could seemingly go bankrupt in a year (like an indie dev that did an exclusivity deal with Epic games, forgot their name, but they made one game, it didn't get marketed much at all thanks to Epic, and now the dev has gone out of business, with the game only reaching Steam in a few months out of obligation). 

Like it or not Mobile games reign over our core form of entertainment, but does that mean normies with clicker games should invade our awards show?, no, they already have a show, it's called the Oscars, and they almost always tune in to that show every year.

Indie games getting reveal spotlight isn't really enough, especially when you consider the fact that AAA's get more spotlight and award nominations/winners than you do indie, that's 2-1, that's just not good enough, I'm sorry but it isn't. 

Like I get what you and Hynad are trying to say, but I fully agree with, ZyroXZ2, the show can definitely do better than what state it is currently in, and tbh, I'm not up for being convinced that I have to accept the current state of the show, when I know and want it to do better. It's fine if you're okay with the show, I'm not here to snatch your opinion away from you, but understand that I'm not up for being convinced, I'm up for wanting things to change, and that starts with the want for the celebs to go and the smaller guys getting more limelight, so I'll continue to see Geoff as a guy who is more for PR than care for the smaller fish.

Fair enough. I just dont think a more focus on indies would do much. Like the Nintendo Direct Indies doesnt get anywhere near the attention a regular Direct does. Its just not as popular as the AAA games. If Stray didnt get nominated for GOTY this year, almost no one would care. But if Elden Ring or GOW Ragnarok hadnt been nominated, people would scratch their heads and wonder WTF was going on? 

Maybe it would be better to have a seperate award show for each? I dont know. That would kinda seem like Indies arent good enough to be counted as real games. But one thing I know for sure. The award show with the AAA games would crush the ratings of the indie show. Thats just how it is.

I mean, that's it right there... How often do you simply see "best song of the year" or "best movie of the year" without there being a category or genre attached to it?  This is why you always see things like "best action movie of the year" or something, so that even if action movies are the money-makers and most common, there is still a romance comedy or something getting exposure for being the best in its category.

If anything, perhaps there should no longer be a singular GAME of the year, ever.  This would then mean that there's ALWAYS an indie game winning every year because there's always an Indie GOTY section for one to come out on top of.  If there was to be a middle-ground change to it all where you and I can agree, then that would probably be it.  Indie GOTY, Action Adventure GOTY, RPG GOTY, etc. etc.  As it is right now, those separate categories are simply "awards", but never given the spotlight compared to "GOTY".  So that's probably the easiest middle ground answer: there is no singular top award anymore.



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