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JuliusHackebeil said:
JackHandy said:

Vastly underrated. Most of his games go over gamer's heads because he doesn't dumb them down, and this leads people to come to the conclusion that they're all convoluted messes without any substance. But that couldn't be further from the truth. They're (the main MGS titles) genius games.

I was expecting this sort of comment earlier. Now I think we should not dismiss intelligent gamers who get it and don't like it as much as we should not dismiss gamers who don't get what Kojima is trying to say (with mgs for example) and still think it is just cool shit.

But I would be curious to hear what you appreciate and get out of Kojima games, since quite a few comments in this thread (mine included) were rather negative.

Kojima's games are brilliant because they are to gaming what Hemingway's novels are to literature. He utilized the iceberg theory, whereby there's the main, easily-digestible (and quite good in its own right) story and game and also things happening underneath which reflect the game's real story. And while some might disagree with that sub-level stuff, it's hard to deny its brilliance... especially considering how deep and thought-provoking the subject matter is. 

Of course, again, the risk you run is a lot of people walking away wondering, what was that? But as an artist myself, I think it was worth it. After all, those first MGS titles are some of the highest-reviewed, and critically-acclaimed games of all time.

Oh, and they also sold well.