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JEMC said:  

Captain_Yuri said:

From the press event

Jensen:

🟢We will ship some quantity of Ada this quarter.

🟢Vast majority of Ada next quarter.

— Hassan Mujtaba (@hms1193) September 21, 2022

Damn, sounds like even if you want to get one, it may not be easy.

Between low availability and ridiculous prices, the idea of Nvidia putting these cards out of reach to make the remaining Ampere cards more enticing sounds more plausible.

After all, we have to remember that Nvidia tried to renegotiate its contract with TSMC to reduce it, which TSMC said no. So we know that Nvidia has the chips, and it's only a matter of willing to use them now or not.

Also, artificial scarcity to inflate the value proposition of their new cards.

JEMC said:

Darc Requiem said:

The RTX 40 series is actually worse than I thought. I saw a commenter saying the 4080 16GB is a rebranded 4070 and the 4080 12GB is a rebranded 4060ti. If you check the percentage of CUDA cores for a 3070 vs a 3090 and a 3060ti vs a 3090 and then compare them to the 4080 12GB and 4080 16GB vs the 4090 the dude isn't be BSing. WTF Nvidia.

4090 - 16384 Cuda Cores
4080 (16GB) - 9728 Cuda Cores (58.38%)
4080 (12GB) - 7680 Cuda Cores (46.88%)

3090 - 10496 Cuda Cores
3070 - 5888 Cuda Cores (56.1%)
3060ti - 4864 Cuda Cores (46.34%)

I don't really agree with that. Sure, the difference between the 4090 and real 4080 is massive, But I think it has more to do with Nvidia leaving a gap big enough between the different models to fit the -Ti models that will come next year, so they bring enough performance improvements to make them look good enough.

After all, while Nvidia didn't say a thing, GALAX confirmed the chipsets uded on each GPU, and they don't differ much from what they've been using these last generations, with the exception of the 4080 being AD103 when Nvidia rarely uses the x03 name.  

The 12GB 4080 has less Cuda Cores than either of the 3080 models (8704 for the 10GB version; 8960 for the 12GB version), while the 3080Ti was almost a full 4090 with just half the VRAM. Also, both 3080 had a higher memory bandwidth than either of the 4080 models.

While I can understand NVidia wanting to make a bigger gap between the 4090 and some 4080Ti down the line, the gap between 4080 and 4090 is too big. There's enough space for 3 3080Ti versions to fill up the gap between 3080 and 3090.

Basically, the 16GB 4080 is a more like a 4070Ti with a 3080Ti pricetag.