Russia and Ukraine flashpoint

[crissindahouse]

Ryuu96 said:

crissindahouse said:

To be fair, America doesn't only do it because they like Ukraine so much. They also do it because that's a great way to show Russia how even a tiny bit of their capabilities are enough to hold Russia back. And Russia just learns what USA's real capabilities would mean. 

And like Barozi said, Europe has obviously also other costs USA doesn't have as much. In reality pretty much every European country even without sending anything to Ukraine has higher expenses as USA has when you take the GDP into account. 

Yeah, I wasn't trying to compare but more pointing out that we talk about how much USA sends but Eastern/Central Europe are really pulling their weight compared to their GDP which is worthy of high praise too, they do it cause they know Russia better than most. Although I will say, France's contributions are pretty weak for one of the most powerful militaries in all of Europe, if not the most powerful.

I edited my post a little bit while you quoted me^^

Talking about military help I'm definitely on your side. France, Germany, Spain, Italy...there are some bigger countries which could do so much more but it's always excuses why this or that weapon isn't ready or whatever...I mean, here in Germany they told me already 5 months ago how some weapons would need weeks or months of training. Now we are half a year into the war. Ukrainians would be probably better with these weapons already as German soldiers who never had to fight with them lol. 

BTW it's crazy how often I see cars with Ukrainians plates on them now and I'm in the west of Germany. In some Eastern European countries it probably feels almost like you are in Ukraine. 

Last edited by crissindahouse - on 25 August 2022