Russia and Ukraine flashpoint

[crissindahouse]

I guess the argument pro Russia and against NATO it will be just the typical "NATO just wants to threaten Russia even more and needs excuses to put even more soldiers around Russia" and the awesome "there were referendums in some parts of Ukraine and 95 % of people wanted to be independent from Ukraine so that Russia just helps those people" bullshit.

Sure, there might be some who would like that and there might be even a few who think that getting bombs on the head from Russia is great because they "free Russians" but in the end I just have to look at where most from these bombed areas flee to and there is a reason why most went to countries in the west. Because no, they majority doesn't want to be independent or even part of Russia even from East Ukraine and those referendums in the past were complete dogshit if you look at how they hold them.

There are also enough refugees now I can talk to and the family of my Polish born girlfriend lives around 10km from the Ukrainian border so that I could also act like the guy who just has better information as the idiots from the rest of the World who just eat NATO propaganda.

Or I just look at what happens there and what happened in the past an realize that Ukraine might have some problems but surely not so big to give Russia any reason to invade it and even kill mostly exactly those who are supposed to be those who need Russia's help.