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snyps said:
JWeinCom said:

The word art in martial arts is being used in a different sense than it is in the op which refers specifically to a piece of art. Art can refer to a particular skill or study (i.e. Arts and Crafts, Martial Arts, Industrial Arts, Liberal Arts) but that's not what we typically mean when we refer to "pieces of art". If you want to use the term art to refer to anything that fits under any definition of art, then fine, playing games is an art, I'm not going to argue semantics. However, when we talk about art in the sense of pieces of art, we typically are referring to something that is intentionally expressive or evocative. 

A guitarist composing or performing a piece is an expressive act, in most circumstances. A player playing Guitar Hero, no matter how skilled, is not really engaged in any type of expressive act. The only message being conveyed is "this is the most effective way to hit the buttons being demanded of me". To the extent creativity is employed, it is not done to express any particular message or feeling, just based on efficiency. There may be some scenarios where playing a game could be expressive, but by and large, it is not.

I cannot agree with your separation. If one is using skill and imagination to create an object or an act, to be contemplated or appreciated as beautiful, then they are an artist. Period. Not typically this or that. Just period. 

There are 14 different definitions for art in the Oxford English Dictionary. I'm sorry if you don't like it, but the English language is nuanced and words can have different usages. No matter how many times you say period, that won't change. There is a clear difference between creating a play that emotionally resonates with people and finding the fastest way to get all 8 red coins in Tick Tock Clock. Equating those two things makes little sense even if each fits under a separate usage of the word art.

Last edited by JWeinCom - on 15 June 2022