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cookingyourmama on 03 July 2008
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ZenfoldorVGI said:
cookingyourmama said:

1. Their was no damage control to be made in the mgs4 thread, just trolls bashing an AAA game (that has sold several million in software and atleast 200,000 in hardware) because it was released on a console they don't like .

2. Their was no conclusive proof that showed the numbers i posted were wrong, it's was just a bunch of vague guesses with nothing to back them up so how can i disprove what is not proven in the first place?

a. Please post conclusive proof that in the rest of america (a.k.a. not usa or canada) that both the wii and xbox360 sell significantly more consoles than the ps3 does, or is that just wishfull thinking by you and you pulled it out of your a**?

b. Automatically saying one consoles sales = it's shipped figure when you don't know how many consoles are in transit and how many are sat on store shelves is incredibly dumb and ignorant. The wii isn't sold out in europe or japan so assuming all the other parts that make up america apart from the usa and canada are infact sold out is dumb.

3. If their was even the slightest doubt that you are acting like a massive fanboy and anything you say should be laughed at and ignored then that last shred of hope has been taken away by your stupid statement right their.

4. I've already shown why that logic is flawed and you're coming out with yet more fanboy statements as well, the only 'damage control' i see right now is from you.

1. You're biased. MGS4's hardware selling failure was marginalized by bashing vgchartz and Nintendo. You hate nintendo and love sony. That is the real reason you even post this stuff.

2. There was no conclusive proof to show the numbers you posted were right.

a. You don't think the Wii sells more consoles than the PS3 in the americas?

b. For the Wii, shipped = sold. Newsflash.

3. It's "right there" not "right their" and while we're both fanboys here, I admit it. You simply spout false alligations towards VGChartz when it suits you. MGS4's failure and the people laughing about it got you angry, so you were gonna do something to silence them, by flaming the site, and posting NPD numbers to show us we didn't know what the hell we were talking about, and how MGS4 really sold a lot of hardware. No, you're not a fanboy at all.

4. You mean that I've posted "damage control" for VGChartz? You are saying that I've came up with excuses for VGChartz failing? I shouldn't have to. You should have just been banned. However, again, your logic is flawed, and your "responses" dont' explain anything except the fact that I'm a fanboy. However many times you've been told, and despite the obvious inconsistancies from your comparison between NPD and VGChartz, you refuse to even acknowledge they exist, instead resorting to personal attacks. This is the second post you've done it in.

 

Maybe if you just admit to me that the Wii largely beating the PS3 in all territories, I'll leave you alone, so you can get back to your trolling, lies, assumptions, and half-truths. Otherwise, you, like every other misinformed post on this forum, is stuck with Zenfoldor busting you out.

So, just fyi, if NPD and VGChartz American sales matched up, someone would be wrong, because VGChartz covers more than US and Canada. Also, VGChartz data matches up with Wii shipped info extrapolation for America, where the Wii is still supply constrained. Your assumptions end here. Deny those facts so you can get corrected, or stop posting personal flames towards me, because you lack the fortitude to deny them outright. The truth is, you can't deny them, and if they are true, your case loses all credibility, now doesnt' it?

 

Wanna try answering my questions?

1. Haha wow yet more fanboy statements, funny. Mgs4 so far has sold 200,000 extra consoles, that's good not bad and it will continue to sell more, only somebody who hates the ps3 would say that was bad. I don't hate nintendo i like good games and own all three consoles. It's a fact mgs4 is rated as an AAA and it sold well because of it.

2. The numbers i posted were usa npd+canada npd those are facts not made up. I posted the difference between these numbers and vgchartz numbers again facts not made up. I asked why the large difference between the wii and 360 numbers and not the ps3 numbers, nobody could give a conclusive answer with conclusive proof.

a. I never said it didn't sell more i said significantly sells more and you've missed the point. In north america per month the weii out sells the ps3 by anything from 3 to 4 to 1 however if these numbers are to be believed then in south america per month the wii out sells the ps3 by over 11 to 1....does that sound likely?

b. Not all around the world sold = shipped for nintendo, infact it's only north america that is correct. So until it's proven that south america is the same then it is dumb to go round saying it as fact.

3. Nope just stating the facts of numbers, sorry you don't like them. Mgs4 hasn't failed in the slightest, it has been a great success, i laugh at the people who try and say it is a faliure. I never disputed mgs4 pushing 200,000 extra ps3's by vgchartz numbers, i was commenting on the total ltd sales and the difference between the two sets of data.

4. Yikes you really went off the deep end on this one and it just shows how insecure you are about the whole thing. Why are you even bringing up that the wii outsells the ps3? That's not been the debate at all, saying "Maybe if you just admit to me that the Wii largely beating the PS3 in all territories, I'll leave you alone, so you can get back to your trolling, lies, assumptions, and half-truths" again just shows immature and biased you are, it's quite sad really. You have no idea if the wii is supply constrained in south america, you have no idea how many wii's are on store shelves at any time and you have no idea how many wii are in transit at any one time, so again you've proved nothing.