Switch Sales Top 108 Million - Global Hardware May 15-21

[Chrkeller]

The_Liquid_Laser said:

Chrkeller said:

"Forbidden West and GT7 are not PS5 exclusives. You can also get them on the PS4, which has an install base of around 117m. Those 117m people do not have much of a compelling reason to buy a PS5. Demon's Souls is not really an exclusive either, but there are enough people who didn't play the PS3 version that it probably helps to sell the PS5."

By that logic xbox effectively has zero exclusives because all their games are on PC.

All I can tell you is, as a ps4 owner, I bought a ps5 for demon, ratchet and forbidden. I'm guessing I am not the only one.  

That makes sense.  However, do you really think that those are some of the most popular games around.  I personally like Valkyria Chronicles enough that I would buy a system if it had this game and another game or two I liked.  However, I am not naive enough to believe that many other people share my taste.  Some games are more popular than others.  PS5 doesn't have an exclusive or a gen 9 only game that is really popular.

Kakadu18 said:

How on earth can you be so confident about something that is not supported by any data whatsoever?

A game being crossgen does not make it not a systemseller for the next gen console.

How do you not see the flaws in your arguments? XBS has literally 0 full exclusives because everything is also on PC and XBO and yet it still sells.

What do you think why?

Crossgen games have limited appeal in that they are not much different than ports.  Ports are better than nothing, but who wants a system of only ports?  The Vita was basically this kind of system.  Every decent game on the Vita is also on another system.

"How do you not see the flaws in your arguments? XBS has literally 0 full exclusives because everything is also on PC and XBO and yet it still sells.  What do you think why?"

This question doesn't seem to address what I am saying.  You quoted a post where I predicted less than 80m for PS5 lifetime.  Are you making a statement about X|S lifetime?  Do you think X|S will sell at least 80m?  Or perhaps you are addressing something else?  I'm not sure what you are referring to.  Could you clarify?

Chrkeller said:

@Laser

Was Breath of the Wild not a system seller for the Switch since it was on the Wii U?

Look at MK8 sales on the Switch...  or Mario 3D World.  Despite being on another system, those games are clearly important to the Switch.  

What you are saying applies as long as you are willing to equate the PS4 and the Wii U.  I don't think most people are willing to do that.  One thing that made BotW desirable for the Switch is that not many people owned a Wii U.  For Switch owners, the game was new to them.  On the other hand there are around 117m PS4 owners out there.  These people could pay $500 extra to play on PS5 or nothing extra to play on PS4.  That is $500 for slightly better graphics.  These PS4 owners have a huge incentive to just not buy a PS5.  A good incentive to buy PS5 would be popular games that can't be played on PS4.  PS5 does not have this.

   

RolStoppable said:

I see, The_Liquid_Laser came to curl-6's rescue. Seems to become a more regular occurence that these global sales threads see some crazy talk, happens once per month or so.

I know right?  I say crazy things like "software sells hardware".  I am glad you are too enlightened to believe this kind of nonsense.    Do you believe that the PS5 sells by magic like the posters who are arguing with me?  They haven't given me a good reason why many people would buy a PS5, so I can only assume they believe in magic instead of my crazy "software sells hardware" argument.

Yes.  I think Spiderman, Horizon and GT are all massively popular games.  The Souls series, while once niche, has gotten wildly popular.  Elden sold very well.  So yes, I think the ps5 has numerous system sellers.  Going from the ps4 to ps5 isn't minor.  Graphics, framerate and load times are all significantly improved.    

Sure, there were more ps4 owners than Wii U owners...  however consider BotW on the Wii U and Switch are virtually identical...  the same isn't true with Forbidden on the ps4 versus ps5.

Either way we are going in circles.  I got involved based on the claim the ps5 wasn't in high demand...  it sells out minutes after being restocked...  it is in high demand.  

*I also think you are crazy via thinking the ps5 will sell less than 80 million units.  

**Deathloop was also a very nice game.  I have a good number of ps5 games.  Given it is less than 2 years old I am quite impressed with the lineup.  

Last edited by Chrkeller - on 08 June 2022