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Captain_Yuri said:

With all this talk about power figures, I think it's time to reiterate the fact that Nvidia and AMD measure their power figures for their GPUs differently.

https://www.igorslab.de/en/graphics-cards-and-their-consumption-read-out-rather-than-measured-why-this-is-easy-with-nvidia-and-nearly-impossible-with-amd/4/

When Nvidia lists their power figures, they measure what's highlighted in yellow which is essentially the entire board:

The advantage is that when you look at it through software such as MSI Afterburner or GPU-Z which is what a lot of reviewers do, you can get accurate power figures. But what AMD measures is different as highlighted in yellow:

"The scheme for the TGP-relevant areas shows that apart from the GPU and the memory, NOTHING else is really included."

So when you look at say a 6950XT on AMD's site or Techpowerup's site or in their marketing and you see the "335 Watts," it's because AMD is only measuring the GPU and Vram where as Nvidia measures the entire board. This also means that when you go into MSI Afterburner or GPU-Z, AMD GPUs will also show the 335 Watts which can be miss-leading.

What this results in is when you measure the 6950XT via P-CAT which measures the power of the entire GPU, you get the real power figures the AMD cards consume. In case with 6950XT, you get 431 Watts and not 335 that you think would be the actual power figures.

In addition:

"Let’s test this against! The MSI RX 6750 XT Gaming X Trio shows an average of 225 watts TGP in GPU-Z as a heated card. With my shunt measurement setup, it’s just under 270 watts for the entire board. If we now convert the difference, we arrive at an increase of 20 percent, which is still a lot, but significantly less. So for the time being, it’s not comparable.

Therefore, I finally also test the MSI RX 6650 XT Gaming X. With a TGP of now only 145 watts, it is then 180 watts TBP for the whole card, so suddenly 24 percent more again!"

Now this isn't so much that what AMD is measuring is incorrect but more so, it's miss leading to the uninformed. AMD doesn't claim they measure the entire GPU but many people think AMD measures their power figures the same way as Nvidia and thus, they directly compare the two. In reality, they don't. If measured the same way, the 3090 would be "290 watts" vs "300 watts" of the 6900XT.

From what I saw, AMD is also pivoting away from TGP to TBP for next gen, but we'll see if they really do

Captain_Yuri said:

Apple announces next-gen M2 silicon with 8-core CPU and 10-core GPU

https://videocardz.com/press-release/apple-announces-next-gen-m2-silicon-with-8-core-cpu-and-10-core-gpu

"M2 takes the industry-leading performance per watt of M1 even further with an 18 percent faster CPU, a 35 percent more powerful GPU, and a 40 percent faster Neural Engine."

Feels more like M1.5 than a new gen SoC tbh.

NVidia would have called it an M1Ti for sure.

Sine Apple is tiling them together, the M2 Max and Ultra will be more considerable upgrades, but the base and pro models...