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Machiavellian on 27 May 2022
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cyberninja45 said:
Machiavellian said:

The problem with believing that more guns stop crime or anything for that matter is that we already know from experience that it does not. One thing I noticed after a mass shooting, the GOP go on about putting armed retired citizens, school teachers and so fort but if we take a look at the latest mass shootings, all have worn body armor. More guns will not stop mass shootings or mass shooters because when they are ready to do the deed, they are going to be packing all the ammo, body armor with the best tool to take as many lives as possible. I do agree that gun laws are not enough, there would need to be a clear shift in America and how we as a country view guns before any real effective change happen. Right now, there are only just thoughts and prayers on the GOP side and their belief that more guns and more armed people will solve the issue but as we continue to see, that is not the case. Mass murders just come better prepared for the deed.

I believe I stated this before but the movie Escape from New York is looking closure like a prophecy every year in the US.

What do you mean guns doesn't stop crime or anything lol. Why the heck do we arm law enforcement then?

And you and others keep making this weird argument that we shouldn't bother to prepare staff because mass murderers comes prepared. 

staff makes it harder to prepare for mass shooting no?

I mean exactly that it does not stop crime.  How many gun incidents actually reduce crime at all or actually reduce murders.  If anything the main tool for killing is the gun in America.  So is the solution to go back to the wild wild west, everyone packing and every encounter is solved with a gun.  So you believe having teachers in classrooms packing is somehow going to reduce these incidents.  Its a fallacy because it builds on some fantasy that the mass murderer is some idiot who is not going to come prepared.  Just like Texas and Buffalo and even before these 2 incidents each killer has come well prepared for opposition and has been able to execute their strategy to kill as many people in a short period of time before either being captured or put down.  Its not that at some point someone will put down the assailant, its that more guns does not fix the problem nor will it prevent the incidents from happening.  Its not a realistic solution nor is it going to be an effective one because Texas already have armed resource and armed teachers.  

So no, its like putting a bandaid on a amputated wound, it may make you feel good but being effective no so much.