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ZenfoldorVGI said:
cookingyourmama said:

I posted this in another thread not so long ago:

 

Their is a big difference between vgchartz american numbers and npd's for the wii and 360 but not for the ps3. Now i'm not saying who is right and who is wrong i'm just stating the facts that the two sets of numbers are very different.

As of the end of may 2008 npd total ltd's are this:

PS3 - 4,450,000
Wii - 10,180,000
360 - 10,270,000

When you add in canada's numbers which is a combination of reported numbers and % estimates based on previous american numbers compared to the same month of canadian numbers you get:

PS3 - 4,911,806
Wii - 11,121,396
360 - 11,111,757

Now comparing that to vgchartz numbers for the same time you get:

npd+canada 4,911,806 - vgc 4,943,560 - +31,754
npd+canada 11,121,396 - vgc 11,891,587 - +770,191
npd+canada 11,111,757 - vgc 11,599,497 - +487,740

The ps3 numbers are almost identical with vgchartz being +31,754 higher

The wii ltd number is vastly above npd's ltd number at +770,191 higher. Anybody who thinks being over three quaters of a million isn't a significantly higher number needs their head checked.

The 360's number is again well above npd's ltd number at +487,740 higher. That's almost half a million.

Now if all 3 consoles were roughly the same when it came to being higher or lower to npd's numbers i wouldn't say anything but the fact their is such a huge difference is something that can't be ignored.

1. Yeah, I remember you trying to back up the damage controllers in the MGS4 topic.

2. When we mentioned two things that completely contradicted what you said, you had no explaination.

 

A. Those numbers don't include all of the "Americas", VGChartz does, where the PS3 sales narn, and the Wii is hotcakes.

B. NPD numbers don't match up with shipped figures worldwide, VGChartz does, when you extrapolate them, that is.

 

3. Quite recently, VGChartz reported that PSP sold more in Japan than the Wii, contradicting Famitsu. I wonder which side you woulda chose on that argument, heh.

 

4. Overally, VGChartz hardware numbers are accurate. Particularly when you match them with shipped figures. If one or two individual regions are off by a couple of percentage points, we're still in the margin for error, and the PS3 is still getting destroyed by the Wii in America, and that won't change for a while, or ever.

Whining and damage control over MGS4 numbers aside, it's about time everyone lost some respect for NPD. Their numbers aren't official either.

 

1. Their was no damage control to be made in the mgs4 thread, just trolls bashing an AAA game (that has sold several million in software and atleast 200,000 in hardware) because it was released on a console they don't like .

2. Their was no conclusive proof that showed the numbers i posted were wrong, it's was just a bunch of vague guesses with nothing to back them up so how can i disprove what is not proven in the first place?

a. Please post conclusive proof that in the rest of america (a.k.a. not usa or canada) that both the wii and xbox360 sell significantly more consoles than the ps3 does, or is that just wishfull thinking by you and you pulled it out of your a**?

b. Automatically saying one consoles sales = it's shipped figure when you don't know how many consoles are in transit and how many are sat on store shelves is incredibly dumb and ignorant. The wii isn't sold out in europe or japan so assuming all the other parts that make up america apart from the usa and canada are infact sold out is dumb.

3. If their was even the slightest doubt that you are acting like a massive fanboy and anything you say should be laughed at and ignored then that last shred of hope has been taken away by your stupid statement right their.

4. I've already shown why that logic is flawed and you're coming out with yet more fanboy statements as well, the only 'damage control' i see right now is from you.