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JEMC said:
green_sky said:

I have 650 Gold PSU. What do i buy? 4060/50Ti, 7600XT or never releasing Intel ones?

Assuming there is stock this time.

That's what it looks like, yes. Either that or get a new PSU with the card, but PSUs will also be in high demand because the higher power requirements of the new cards and the new PCI 5.0 connector necessary to power the new beasts.

Couple that with Intel's head saying that he expects shortages to last until 2024 and yeah, it will suck for all for a while.

Yea am just gonna target midrange. Maybe those won't require new connectors. Not like most games i play are super demanding on my pc. In near future maybe just Starfield. 

Captain_Yuri said:

Personally if you are planning to commit to a higher end one, you should buy a Power Supply before the cards actually launch. I would obviously wait for the TDP numbers but the last thing you want is to pay a premium for a PSU due to PSU shortages and GPUs as well.

But on the other hand, the requirements of what is required to be a long lasting GPU will continue to go down as long as you aren't targeting 4k. A 2080 Super which had an msrp of $700 is what was required due to the power of consoles. Then with Ampere, a 3060 Ti is good enough which had an msrp of $400 and it's faster than a 2080 Super. So a 4060 might seem meh but assuming that's faster than 3060 Ti like how a 3060 is similar to a 2060 Super... Well if you play at 1440p, a 4060 is all you really need.

Yea that's the main issue with shortages in a competitive landscape. You either need truck loads of money to buy up supply or you need an architecture that will pull above it's weight despite being in a node deficit. And this will especially suck for consumers because regardless of how good the performance may be, datacenter will always get priority.

It's all about money. TSMC might favor AMD in a situation where AMD offering equivalent amount of money as other companies but Apple, Intel and probably Nvidia will probably offer copious amounts of money to ensure they have supply for their products.

Yea, something with the power of 3060Ti/3070 is gonna be more than enough for me. Currently i play at 1080/144 hz. Tbh at most i would get for pc is 1440p monitor. I have seen 4k set ups. It is diminishing returns for me. Sure 4k is nice watching movies or tv shoes on big screen. So 4060 could be promising or might just pick up 3060Ti as they will continue to sell those it seems. Going for higher end cards will be unbalanced system. 

hinch said:

If you have no interest in upgrading the rest of your system and just swapping out GPU. I'd get whatever 6 series from AMD/Nvidia tbh. The availability of these cards in the first several months from launch will be quite limited; due to high demand for new, mainstream cards. If you could stretch a bit more you might be able to get the 4060Ti; which should also be the upper end of what your PSU can handle. I'd wait for Nvidia/AMD's recommendations first though for power requirements.

As for intel's Arc. I would personally avoid. Intel seems to be having a problems with drivers and I wouldn't risk that tbh. Unless its cheap and works with games you play. But even then.. its a bit iffy.

Another option is wait for the new GPU's to come out and buy a cheaper Ampere card. You might be able to find a good deal on Ebay or something.

Yea i just built my pc in Jan of 2020. Ryzen 3600x, 32 GB ram, 650W PSU and used my old gpu Rx 580. In hindsight should or could have gone with 3700x. So either of upcoming midrange gpus would be quite an upgrade and i guess keep me going. Yea good point to avoid Intel. 

Just not playing as much. Get tired after work to play on weekdays and weekends i spend with family or just tuning into the same pvp games that i can play on potato. 

Thanks for all the replies. You guys rock and keep the discussions entertaining.