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Captain_Yuri said:

Bofferbrauer2 said:

The ARC 3 will not go up against the 3050, let alone the 3050Ti. It has enough on it's plate with trying to keep up with the Ryzen 6000 APUs already and would be more comparable with the MX 450 than the GTX 3050.

The ARC 5 on the other hand looks more like a promising competitor to the 3050/Ti and the 6500M, especially with having twice as much memory at hand. I'm interested in seeing how they'll perform in the end - and if Intel will support them long enough with performance-enhancing updates, as this has been their Achilles heel in the past.

Captain_Yuri said:

Intel ARC A350M laptop GPU demonstrates GeForce GTX 1650 series performance in the first 3DMark tests

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-arc-a350m-laptop-gpu-demonstrates-geforce-gtx-1650-series-performance-in-the-first-3dmark-tests

This is supposed to be their 3050 competitor... But it performs like a 1650???

I didn't even have to see this post to know where it's gonna end up more or less in this chart. After all, it's mostly just an Iris iGPU as a standalone chip on a discrete graphics board, and only having a 64bit memory connection will hamper it's bandwidth and thus performance even further.

It's about the performance level of a 1650Ti Max-Q, but that card was limited to 35W while the ARC A350M can go up to 50W. Certainly not a great showing for this GPU so far, but being better than an MX 450 is already a nice for Ultrabook users who want at least some GPU power.

That would be pretty sad if the MX450 is what Intel's target has been for A350/A370. That GPU arch came out in 2020 and Arc 5 going up against 3050/3050Ti would mean Arc 7 would be 3060sh to maybe 3070. That doesn't really bode well for a GPU so late in the game.

The way the GPU is organized strongly reminds me of AMD GPUs.

Specifically, the Xe cores are very reminiscent of AMDs old Compute Units. In fact, when I saw the spec sheet, I was laughing out loud, thinking to myself that Raja Koduri (who was the chief GPU developer at AMD until he left for Intel after he designed the Vega GPUs) has finally created lower-end Vega GPUs.

That being said, they are quite a bit more performant than Vega at the same clock speed, but simply can't keep up with Navi 2x or Ampere. I wouldn't write them off however, as Intel will certainly try to do better in the future.