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gtotheunit91 said:
ConservagameR said:

I'd say based on what's known about the new Plus, it's the best value, if we're only taking value into account.
As for what's the best deal, Game Pass wins that because you just can't beat giving tons of (new) (AAA) games away for free basically.

I still argue Game Pass is the best deal and best value because you’re not stuck on console with Game Pass. For $15/month you get access to last gen and current gen consoles, PC (both through the Xbox app ,which you get the native PC version of the game including PC only games to download, and web browsers that allow you to even play on a Mac) and mobile with both smartphones and tablets. The sheer number of options to play all these games without the need to buy any dedicated gaming hardware is unmatched. 

Plus is on console with streaming only for PC. That immediately hinders how much growth there can be for the service. There’s substantial value there for sure and I’ll probably get the mid tier for my PS5, but I think there’s more to get from Game Pass. 

Cost wise both are pretty similar. Ultimate is actually the most expensive by a margin.

Plus guarantee's you some games. New games each month. Plenty of good stuff. More and more over time. You have to keep paying, but they'll always be there and available whenever you want them. Those games don't rotate out.

Plus also is offering a huge catalogue from the start, and it's BC catalogue is quite likely to grow, or at least end up more well rounded than what's available through XB and Game Pass. MS seems done with adding more BC, where Sony should be able to easily add more BC with the sub income.

There are still too many unknowns with Plus to be able to say it's the best deal, but unless all those 700+ games are garbage, it's got huge value.