Russia and Ukraine flashpoint

[Machiavellian]

crissindahouse said:

TallSilhouette said:

With how shameless their gaslighting is and how much of the Russian population it apparently still works on I wonder if Russia would declare victory even if they completely fail to hold on to any territory or change any of the leadership in Ukraine, going home with a historically bad body count. Would it succeed in holding on to majority support in the country and allowing those in power (that aren't made patsies) to keep their positions and heads?

I guess if they will fail to take over Kiev and the rest of Ukraine they will just take over Mariupol which they will if they just try long enough even if they will lose thousands of soldiers more there. And then they will talk about the great victory, how all areas in which Russians had to suffer are free now and how they only fought in some other parts of Ukraine because they had to destroy Ukraine's military bases, bio weapon laboratories and stuff like that and that it obviously never was the goal to take over a whole country. 

I guess that's what Putin will do. 

Or he will just go all in with everything he has (and Russia obviously still has a huge military strengths in Russia) and if that doesn't work he will be a pussy like Hitler was and kill himself and that not even with the enemy in his country...

Lets not hope for Putin to be suicidal.  If a person is at the point where they would want to take their own life, they also might be at the point where they want to take as many people with them as they can.  Just think about the person who kills their whole family before themselves.