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Dulfite on 19 March 2022
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SvennoJ said:
Dulfite said:

Nothing is EVER white, most countries are grey, but occassionally a country is black. So it isn't black and white, but rather black and gray.

Hitler's Germany was black, Japan's treatement of the Chinese in WW2 was black, Stalin's USSR was black, France's Reign of Terror was black, ISIS is black, North Korea is black, Early USA slaugtering Native Americans was black as well as having slaves, China is black, and yes, Putin's Russia is black.

What are some examples that make a country black?

- Attaching dissidents to canons to let their bodies explode like the North Koreans do.

- Genocide against any people group like the Chinese, Hitler's Germany, and USSR did.

- Putin's Russia using weapons that suck out oxygen from the lungs and many times cause lungs to explode, carpet bombing indiscriminately, jailing and murdering dissidents and political opponents within the nation who aren't doing anything illegal. The comprehensive list of all the universal evils Russia has committed in the last two weeks alone is insane. Hitler didn't even move at this fast of a pace to turn his nation into an anyone-against-me-is-evil-and-must-die state. Some things are black, and Putin's Russia is absolutely, without a doubt, universally, objectively, flat out, any-other-redundant-word-to-let-this-point-hit-home, black.

I don't disagree with you at all about that. My point of reducing everything to black and white was in relation to the article I linked. When 911 happened, muslims became victims of harassment and hate crimes, and now it's Russians. It's that kind of tribalism that keeps this shit going.

Well if that's what you are worried about, I haven't seen any of that, anecdotally granted, in my experience. Russians or Russian Americans living in the USA have not, as far as I have seen, and certainly not on the same scale as Muslims, been subjected to public ridicule like middle Easterners were after 9/11 or Japanese were after Pearl Harbor. Perhaps in some parts of USA it is bad, or maybe in Europe it is much worse. I get the impression most Americans view Russians as being here because it wasn't great at home and therefore they probably don't like Putin if they are here. Kind of like if I see Chinese people or Cuban people you can pretty safely assume they hate communism if they are here.

The whole Muslim thing got so bad after 9/11 because that is a religious influence, which is far deeper than national ones, and people freaked out thinking anyone that is Muslim or looks like a Muslim would read their text the same way and start raping and murdering or suicide bombing. The patriot act didn't help calm our nerves down either. Not do two prolonged wars.