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KratosLives said:
SanAndreasX said:

Putin's idea of negotiating is, "If you obey me, I might not kill you." That's not negotiation, that's extortion. 

What did putin want?

He wants the subjugation of Ukraine. He wants an obedient puppet government installed in Kyiv, similar to the one in Belarus, whose president is a willing participant in Putin's crimes. The Ukrainians do not want to be a vassal state of Russia. And since he didn't get what he wanted, he's now throwing a tantrum. This war is entirely on him.

Frankly, I couldn't care less what Putin wants. The only thing Putin needs is to be killed. 

When you bow down before terrorists, it only emboldens them.