sundin13 said:
You seem to imply that I said/meant a lot of things that I didn't say. Let me make what I mean clear: You could very well argue that guilt-by-association can often be a poor judge. What you can't argue is that the association is very much real. These individuals are literally standing beside neo-nazis, so don't act like Trudeau is off base by calling it out. As for whether the association between extremist groups and opinions, and the convoy is as shallow as you imply, it certainly doesn't seem like it to me. I mean for one, the Ottawa Police set up a hotline to deal with the hundreds of hate crime reports that have poured in. Then, you have the open displays of support for nazis, extremist groups (eg. Three Percenters) and conspiracy groups (eg. Q). Finally, you have several of the most prominent figures in the convoy like organizer Pat King who supports the "great replacement"/"white genocide" white nationalist talking point and makes comments about how the jews control the world. The way I see, no matter how you slice it, you are going to be left with a lot of alt-right bullshit and that shouldn't surprise you, as this convoy is nakedly about airing the grievances of the alt-right. |
I would still say that the big fish here is about freedom and the nazi bullshit is just little remora fish clinging on there and trying to make use of the situation. Again, there's nuance and the mainstream media on either side are conveniently obscuring that. Tribalism and hyperbole as per usual.
Also, the term alt-right is a slippery one nowadays. It seems to mean anybody that doesn't echo the far left talking points, so basically the vast majority of any given population. Maybe just say far right or extreme right, when talking about nazis or supremacists or that kind of fringe crap. I don't even know whether that shit is really left or right at all, just crazy.