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DonFerrari said:
zero129 said:

Do you get numbers on Halo sales no one else has?. Its gone from 11-12m users to over 20 million users thats all that matters is player count.

Killzone or any other Sony FPS didnt even make a dent in Halo and Sony will never have a FPS game be as big as it or CoD if it goes exclusive.

Nope, profit is what count.


You mentioned some Sony franchises that went above 15 million. So how much profit does Sony make bundling games like God of War or Spider-Man or Uncharted 4? Or selling them for $18? Or bundling Horizon or selling the complete version for $15? Doesn’t sound like much profit. Maybe this is why they charge $70 for their software now and haven’t been doing bundles.

Machiavellian said:
DonFerrari said:

And well, comparing PS3 years to PS4 years, Halo gone from like 15M sell to probably 8M or less, while several Sony IPs gone over 15M. Seems like they really didn`t need a Halo killer. And we see MS response, they can`t make games that rival Sony so they are buying publishers.

That would be an incorrect analysis.  Since Sony is also purchasing companies.  MS is purchasing Devs and Publishers not in response to Sony but instead response to the market.  Right now everyone is purchasing Devs and publishers are up for sale.  People continue to live in the Console war mindset but those wars are pretty much gone.  MS purchase Bethesda and Activision not because of Sony but because they were up for sale and if they are going to make Gamepass the defacto subscription then content is king.  I looked at Apple earnings and you just know they are coming into the game, its only a matter of time. 2 billion devices out in the wild.  You guys forward vision continue to limit you in understanding a big shift happening in the market.

This post makes too much sense, mods should have closed the thread right after it was submitted.