| sethnintendo said: Can't believe they won two super bowls with shitty ass Ben. They had a good rb then right and probably defense. |
Ben played horribly in his first Super Bowl. I put that mostly on Ben being a 2nd year QB who was really restricted his first couple of seasons by Offensive Coordinator Ken Wisenhunt. Ben really developed after Bruce Arians became the Offensive Coordinator in 2007, leading Ben to be a huge factor in the Steelers XLIII win against the Cardinals, and surpassing the 4,000 yards passing in a season mark for the first time in 2010.
Super Bowl XLIII: Pittsburgh Steelers 27, Arizona Cardinals 23
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| Ben Roethlisberger | 21/30 | 256 | 1 | 1 | 93.2 |
Steelers had 58 total yards rushing in the game. Down by 3 points with 2:37 to go in the game, Big Ben engineered a 78 yard game winning drive capped off by threading the game winning TD pass past 3 Cardinals defenders for the win.
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Pittsburgh got the ball back on their own 22-yard line with 2:37 left in the game and two timeouts remaining. On their first play, a holding penalty pushed them back 10 yards. Roethlisberger then completed a pass to Holmes for 14 yards. After an incompletion, Roethlisberger threw it to Holmes again for a first down. An 11-yard reception by Nate Washington followed, and a 4-yard run by Roethlisberger forced the Steelers to burn their first timeout. On the very next play, he completed a pass to Holmes, who took it 40 yards to the Cardinals' 6-yard line after safety Aaron Francisco fell down. Two plays later, Roethlisberger found Mewelde Moore covered in the flat, then Ward covered. He looked and then threw to Holmes, who ran a flag route in the right corner. Holmes caught the pass in the back corner of the end zone for a touchdown, managing to land with his toes inbounds before falling out of bounds. "My feet never left the ground," said Holmes. "All I did was extend my arms and use my toes as an extension to catch up to the ball." After a booth review, the touchdown pass stood. Reed's ensuing extra point put the Steelers in front 27–23 with 35 seconds remaining.
If he had managed to pull off that kind of drive with 2 minutes left against the Packers down by just 6 in Super XLV, he would have won a 3rd Lombardi Trophy. Ben threw 2 first half int's early in the game to put them behind, but Rashard Mendenhall's 4th quarter fumble while the score was just 17-21 was the actual back breaker.
hatmoza said:
Apparently raping a 20 year old woman, and attempting to rape all of her friends is forgiven if you win a super bowl. |
What? First off, no. The allegation itself is enough without you needing to add to it. It's that kind of thing that makes it easier for a person to dismiss the allegation itself. But, I'm not going to pretend to know what really happened. I only know that no criminal charges were pressed in either case. And in the case of the college student her exchange with police officers that night was:
The summary said, "Blash indicated that he asked the victim, 'Did he rape you?', and the victim stated 'no.' Blash asked the victim if they had sex, and she responded by saying, 'Well, I'm not sure.' "
Also, a rape kit was performed which found no traces of Ben's DNA enough though the woman said they had intercourse without a condum.
If what happened actually happened the way she claimed at the time, then yes, that's a horrible thing. I hope it didn't, but I won't pretend to know for certain either way.
Farsala said:
Ravens and Bengals had periods of very strong teams, one that would even win the SB. The Browns were stronger in recent years, and is now weakening again. That didn't really stop the Steelers from winning against them during the regular season. Steelers don't really have a serviceable QB anymore. If the Steelers have to invest on beefing up their offense, then resources will be taken away from their defense. |
In 2019, Mike Tomlin managed to get a 5-3 record out of Mason Rudolph, and a 3-3 record out of Devlin Hodges (who isn't even in the NFL anymore). So, they have managed to stay competitive even with Ben recently. I don't expect them to go into 2022 with Mason Rudolph as the starter though, especially since Tomlin didn't even give him the 14 starts that Ben missed in 2019 while wasting 6 starts on a QB he was going to cut anyway. I really hope he doesn't try to go through a season with Dwayne Haskins as the starter either. So, it will be interesting to see if they draft another QB, or try to trade for one of the available veterans this offseason. They will be in a much better cap position this offseason than they were last year. And, they finally have a franchise back in the backfield again, and a strong receiving tight end. But, regardless of who is throwing passes, they absolutely need to upgrade their offensive line this year. I don't expect them to win a division title anytime soon (unless they pull of a coup like bringing in Aaron Rodgers), but I don't expect them to crater either. I don't deny that the Bengals are definitely the strongest team in the AFC North right now though.
