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| Jaicee said: I've spoken my peace on this subject at considerable length before as well, but to reiterate, I fault not only Joe Manchin for transparently and consistently negotiating in bad faith with no intent of ever reaching an agreement on the BBB Act, but also President Biden for making this outcome possible in the first place by splitting up his heavily watered down version of what was once known as the Green New Deal into two separate bills (one only does that if they consider it acceptable for one part of the program to be defeated) with a clear prioritization of one of those two (the infrastructure bill, of course), which he actively made sure passed without the BBB Act. In other words, I'm honestly not sure how serious President Biden himself has ever actually been about this "signature legislation" of his and deserves his share of the blame for this outcome, as does House Speaker Pelosi and Progressive Caucus leader Jayapal for affording it, and so on. I feel that there's plenty of blame to go around here on different levels for most of the Congressional Democrats. To me, it just comes off like after the off-year elections, the Democratic Party practically as a whole essentially just gave up on passing the BBB Act and went for what they thought was easier. |
My main question is why would you believe that anything would change no matter how the BBB was brought up. The same 2 A holes would still be there and they would still do exactly what they have done already. So what you are saying is that instead of splitting the Infrastructure bill and BBB but keep it all together, the BBB would have passed. Do you really think the way the current House and Senate is made up that the Green New Deal would make it to Biden's desk, lets be realistic here.
Lets first think about the first hurdle. How would it get pass the Senate through filibuster, not a chance. Then lets be realistic based on the moderate Dems who definitely would not be trilled to get that huge monster to Biden desk. Hell, they can barely get the cut down version through reconciliation what makes you believe that huge Green new deal would even go through reconciliation. So we are left with a huge spending bill that I doubt would have passed the house but lets say it did and hits the Senate. You would need 60 votes in the Senate and there is absolutely no chance that is going to happen unless a miracle happens. Then you still have the same 2 a holes on the Dem side trying to kill everything like they already have. Why would their agenda change, if anything you can believe Manchin would not budge an inch. The Green new deal was never and I mean never going to get through both houses of Congress in its original form.
So yeah, they split the bill because the chances of getting it through in one big bill was nil. Yes, it does not have everything the progressives want because progressives do not run the house or senate and thus they need to fight to get what they can to the President desk.
