SvennoJ said:
Funny to see people 'celebrating' the 'gimped' Series S as a bridge to a hypothetical Switch 2, hoping a Switch 2 will be a lot more powerful than the Switch. Which is it? Do you want moar powar or less powar :p
I don't think Nintendo is in a hurry with a Switch successor, nor do they care much about higher specs. I doubt any Switch 2 will exceed the Steam Deck and certainly won't come near PS5 and Series X. How well Series S will be supported after the cross gen period is behind remains to be seen. Lower res, lower fps, lower detail, it can only go so far. A Switch 2 might compare to a base ps4 in terms of performance. I wouldn't expect more.
The Switch was originally pegged at 1 tflops as well, turned out to be 340-390 gflop (docked) in practice. Series S is 'gimped' compared to ps5 and Series X yet is still 10x faster than the Switch in raw tlops count. I doubt a Switch 2 will be 10x faster than the Switch. Even if it would be half as fast as Series S, porting will still be difficult when Series S is already stretching the limits to keep up with Series X.
Also memory will be a bottleneck. Switch has 25.6 GB/s bandwidth, Series S runs at 224 GB/s, another 10x difference. Doubt a Switch 2 will get 10x faster RAM.
Will Switch 2 have a high speed SSD? 2.4 GB/s throughput on Series S, Switch cards top out at 104 MB/s, Series S is 23x faster!
Once games are targeted for this generation, it will get a lot harder to port down.
In the end priorities for Nintendo are reasonable starting price while making profit from day one. Everything included has to be able to be sold for $299 at a profit. |
We are not celebrating but doing assumptions on how Series S could help Switch for third party titles. Sure we want more power, people got angry because they didn't get the "Pro" haha.
Switch could get 1 tflop in FP16 and 512 in FP32, so is not the same, the switch has 393.2 tflops in FP32 (Docked) so theorically it can reach 786.4 tflops in FP16.
Next point, you're comparing current Switch with series S for bandwich, we are talking about the Next Switch, Current Nvidia Chip is ORIN so:
Series S VS ORIN:
Series S:
4 TFlops, 8 GB GDDR6 RAM @ 224 GB/s with 128-bit bus & 2 GB RAM @ 56 GB/s
ORIN:
4 TFlops Max (theoretically), Up to 32GB LPDDR5 RAM @ 200 GB/s with 256-bit bus.
You're right with the Switch cards, they are pretty slow for current gen standards, we could have long times loading some games if we continue using the same speeds on SD cards.