Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread

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PSwii60 said:

I think what's wrong the politics now is how no one would reach across the aisle and meet anybody halfway anymore. That's why I read this book to understand why and where the right-wing actually is. I mean, I'm a minority and have worked for the unions the worked closely with Kamala Harris. I mostly vote for Democrats and believe that Trump is the worst that ever came into the oval office.
I watch Maddow, Hayes, even progressive channels like TYT and independent YT channels like the Pakman show. I even cringe at watching Fox shows because of the way they spin things. The only thing I ever give props for is Tucker because of how unapologetic of a troll he is and how he can make people believe his every word.

First of all, I definitely blame Trump for how he handled the pandemic. If he really was worried about the lockdowns, he should've handled it in the first place and investigated the first doctor that ever reported who also warned the world and find out where he ended up and definitely sought patient-zero to develop the 'alpha' vaccine.

All I'm saying is there is a certain degree of propaganda to democratic media, too. All I'm interested in is finding where the right-wing media is and hopefully understand where they're coming from. I mean, that's how politics used to be: working out the kinks and differences with one another and have a good conversation with one another.

Find out what the source model of where all this data came from, is it reliable? Is it applicable in the now? Who benefitted the most out of the pandemic? How they did benefit from this? Did they play a hand in the narrative? Did China really buy out all those masks from every other country before the pandemic hit the world? Were they the only country that has masks?

I mean, there's always a question, right?

The rich benefitted. (while the poor, got much poorer)
Companies, the big ones. Ones that got tax breaks, or state aid.

"The 400 richest Americans added $4.5tn to their wealth last year, a 40% rise, even as the pandemic shuttered large parts of the US, according to Forbes magazine’s latest tally of the country’s richest people."

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/oct/05/richest-americans-became-richer-during-pandemic

The corrupt in goverments, given contracts they didnt honor, and never planned too.
You can bet your arse, Trump used the pandemic to enrich himself, and his friends.


"Did they play a hand in the narrative? Did China really buy out all those masks from every other country before the pandemic hit the world? Were they the only country that has masks?" - PSwii60

Yes China, lied to buy themselves a few weeks advantage, and started panic buying things, and hording production for themselves (becaused they had a need for it, the outbreak was worst there at the beginning).  Dont blame them for that though, most other countries would do the same.

And to be honest, the west, squandered our "advanced warning", we had.
Even after realiseing it was in china, most of the west was like "perphaps it wont spread to us?" ,
"why should we shut down our economy for so little spread, its only a few people infected now!"

Anything china did in harm, with not notifying the rest of the world, properly once they knew, we did worse to ourselves.
Out of greed.

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"First of all, I definitely blame Trump for how he handled the pandemic. " - PSwii60

You should.
He put economy and self intrests, above the lives and health of the country.
Then he made it a political issue. Wearing masks, getting vaccinated, ect ect, lies about what treatments works ect.... he has probably indirectly killed a good 100,000 people or more, because of his choices in handling the pandemic.  Ontop of that, he had a habit of ignoreing expert advise. Anti science, stance, probably made his handling less than ideal.

Apart from that, like so many other countries, there was corruption, and mis-use of funds, for contracts, handed out to "friends" instead of the most well suited, for the task. With many of these people, just pocketing the money, and giveing a product not working.

USA has lost atleast 826,000+ people to Covid.
Everyday another 2,000 or so die to it.
Before we're out of this pandemic, its likely to have killed well over a million people, in the USA alone.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 17 December 2021