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Farsala on 01 November 2021
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xPhenom08x said:
Farsala said:

Whether it be direct or indirect, the Switch is still the successor to both the 3DS and the Wii U.

However, support for the Wii U dropped long before the 3DS and moved to the Switch, so that is why I want to differentiate them.

Something like Super Mario Odyssey was in the works for at least 3 years, if not more. Meanwhile in 2017 3DS got Fire Emblem, Metroid, Pokemon, Yoshi etc.

So again, then 3DS is the indirect successor to DS because it still got exclusive games after 3DS see Pokemon.

Before the Switch, it is really quite easy. Handheld to handheld is direct successor, home console to home console is direct successor.

Only questions we might have are which consoles are the 3DS and PS Vita's successors? For 3DS it is clearly the Switch. But I argue it is more indirectly compared with the Wii U.

xPhenom08x said:
Zippy6 said:

It doesn't matter that much, you're the one getting upset about it and viewing it as some sort of attack.

xPhenom08x said:

This is just another thinly disguised way of making the Switch whatever we want to fit our agenda. It's a home console or WiiU successor when discussing it's eventual downfall or sales trajectory. It's a handheld or 3DS successor when discussing why it's outselling Playstation.

3DS still had a place in the market after the Switch had launched as a much cheaper device with a completely different library of games. Switch was a complete replacement of the WiiU. It succeeds both but it is a more direct replacement of the WiiU which it made irrelevant. That's the only point I'm making.

I am not upset at all, this is hilarious. I have only pointed out exactly what this really is. When discussing the Switch's eventual downfall or collapse that's when it's a home console or WiiU/Wii successor. Look at his post, he conveniently brings up direct/indirect when talking about the Switchs trajectory. If it follows 3DS which had a gradual declines then Switch does over 30 million easily. Something he disagrees with so in order to explain his stance or stick to his agenda, the Switch is now just an indirect successor. When explaing why the Switch is kicking playstations ass in Japan, he will call it 3DS's successor. It all depends on the agenda for the day!

What predecessor doesn't have what 3DS had? It was a cheaper option with it'd own library of games. You used 3Ds backward compatibility to wiggly out of DS to 3DS, so now do the same with PS3 to PS4.

I have no agenda here, I just like to talk about sales. Most of the time, I like to use past consoles as reference. The reason I use the DS over the 3DS is because people are expecting >30m, something the DS could do while the 3DS couldn't by a long shot.

When I quoted Tbone51, I didn't necessarily disagree with him. I wanted to add some more food for thought. It appears to have sparked an entirely different conversation though, which is fine.