shikamaru317 said:
src said:
Netflix has Hollywood budget, directors and actor movies. The difference is Netflix is so successful that it can afford to payout such numbers.
Gamepass can never do this because unlike Netflix, the biggest games will never be exclusive to the service. (The Irishman is only on Netflix, but AC Valhalla will be on Steam, PSN, XBL etc).
For SP games pubs will not put their big money makers day 1 or anytime close to launch as the market gives them more money than whatever MS calculates their payout to be.
For MP, it makes more sense, just like PSN+, where placing your game gives you millions more downloads and with your MTX you can get more money. However, this is the F2P model and doing this means that most likely you'll make more money simply making your game F2P.
The biggest MP games are now going F2P (Warzone, Fortnite, Rocket League, Apex, BF Hazard, Genshin Impact, Destiny, Warframe, Splitgate), making Gamepass useless. |
I give you three exhibits that already shoot holes all through these theories of yours: - MS already has huge exclusives for Xbox and Gamepass. Starfield is going to be massive just like every other Bethesda game before it was, and Elder Scrolls 6 will be even more massive than Starfield if Skyrim's 30m+ sales were any indication. Doom is also quite popular these days and MS now owns id Software. Then we have Halo Infinite shaping up to be quite possibly the most popular Halo game yet, considering the feedback from the recent multiplayer flight was overwhelmingly positive.
- We have already seen day one AAA singleplayer games from 3rd party developers on Gamepass. Outriders (playable solo or in co-op) was day one Gamepass earlier this year, MLB: The Show 21 (playable singleplayer or multiplayer) was day one gamepass earlier this year, STALKER 2 is day one gamepass April next year, Atomic Heart is day one gamepass when it releases (TBA release). I'm 99% sure that MS plans to get even more day one gamepass 3rd party singleplayer games in the future.
- MS makes deals with 3rd party devs to release free microtransactions through Gamepass for various F2P multiplayer games, like Phantasy Star Online 2, Smite, Dead By Daylight, Apex Legends, and more. I'm sure MS plans to make even bigger free microtransaction deals for Gamepass in the future, as well as likely including some free microtransactions for their own F2P Halo Infinite multiplayer through Gamepass.
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1. 30-40% of those Skyrim/Fallout/Doom sales probably came from Playstation. The IPs are a lot less significant if they are missing Playstation. Halo has been a series in massive decline for nearly a decade now. Halo 3 opened the NPD at 3.3M+ in one month and Halo 5 opened at 935k. It remains to be seen if a F2P Halo can compete against Warzone, Fortnite, Apex, and BF.
2. You have proved my point. MLB is a multiplayer game with MTX. I didn't say SP games won't be on there, rather the big SP games will not be there day and date.
3. Peanuts compared to what users can get by spending that sub money in game in a F2P game.
Ryuu96 said:
src said:
Netflix has Hollywood budget, directors and actor movies. The difference is Netflix is so successful that it can afford to payout such numbers.
Gamepass can never do this because unlike Netflix, the biggest games will never be exclusive to the service. (The Irishman is only on Netflix, but AC Valhalla will be on Steam, PSN, XBL etc).
For SP games pubs will not put their big money makers day 1 or anytime close to launch as the market gives them more money than whatever MS calculates their payout to be.
For MP, it makes more sense, just like PSN+, where placing your game gives you millions more downloads and with your MTX you can get more money. However, this is the F2P model and doing this means that most likely you'll make more money simply making your game F2P.
The biggest MP games are now going F2P (Warzone, Fortnite, Rocket League, Apex, BF Hazard, Genshin Impact, Destiny, Warframe, Splitgate), making Gamepass useless. |
Why are you comparing The Irishman, something bankrolled by Netflix, to AC Valhalla, a 3rd party production. Your comparisons make zero sense. The Irishman would be the equivalent of a 1st party production. |
Not really.
The Irishman is not produced or directed by Netflix 1st party studios. Its produced and made by a different company, Netflix is simply the distributor.
It would be like Sony contracting FROM to make an exclusive. Its still using third party.
But the bigger point is the biggest IPs in gaming will never be Gamepass exclusive. Look at Squid Game, becoming a global record breaking sensation while being a third party exclusive.
Gamepass won't have that, because the biggest third party gaming IPs are multiplatform and on far bigger platforms (PSN, Steam).
