Gamepass Numbers

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shikamaru317 said:

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Every gaming company's revenue is up double digits LMAO. Did you sleep throughout 2020?

smroadkill15 said:

Lol what? It took 6 years for Netflix to reach the same sub numbers Game Pass was at in 4 years and it took year 8 for it to reach similar growth that it took for Game Pass in 4 years, so twice as long. Game Pass is still limited to Xbox consoles, PC, mobile, and tablets, compared to the number of platforms Netflix is available on now. Xcloud launched last week in Japan, Mexico, Australia, and Brazil with high demand in those regions. The number of regions will continue to grow and the amount of platforms will as well. 

Look, I found an graph that's readable. Take note. 

A bad analysis.

Netflix pioneered streaming content ten years before Gamepass. Streaming models are more common in 2020 and customers are quicker to adopt said services thanks to Netflix.

Disney+ has 100M+ subs in less than two years.

Also please look at revenue, subs each have different pricing options. Spotify has 300M+ subs but many are free tier. Revenue is what makes the business.

This is why I showed YoY growth throughout the years

Notice, subs start with big growth usually 50%+ and then the successful ones still maintain 20-30% growth despite making billions and having 100M+ users.

Xbox is hardly moving the needle and growth is sub 20%

This shows the difference even clearer. Notice the exponential increase in revenue from everything but Xbox.

Microsoft is currently trading short term revenue for higher growth and higher long term revenue. They have literal billions earmarked just for Gamepass 3rd party deals according to a recent statement by an insider. And the strategy of focusing on lower short term revenue for increased growth seems to be working, if the recent 30m statement from Strauss Zelnick was accurate, MS has roughly tripled their sub count in less than 2 years. If it is at around 30m now as Zelnick claimed, growth is on pace to hit 40m subs within the next year, maybe even the next 9 months. PS+ had 47.6m subscribers at last official update, while PS Now had 3.2m at last official update. In other words, Gamepass is on pace to become the biggest gaming subscription service in less than 2 years most likely.

Besides, as I told someone else in this thread, you are never going to get an accurate comparison to tv/movie or music streaming services because it is an entirely different market. Just because Gamepass isn't growing as fast as certain other subscription services doesn't mean that it's not growing. It has potentially tripled subscription numbers in less than 2 years, Netflix has never even managed to double subscription numbers in 2 years. Disney+ tripled in 1 year meanwhile, but it's freaking Disney, the biggest movie studio on the planet with a huge catalog of exclusive content. 

I was showed you higher growth isn't happening so whats the trade?

This is meme worthy, sub service model is easy to see growth for movies/tvs/music/PSN+/Prime, pretty much any service, but Gamepass is special

Half your post relies on unofficial data.

GP took 2 years to go from 10M to 18M. PSN+ grew faster than this (12-27M in 2 years) . Netflix absolutely obliterates this. They added 36M users this year while being nearly 10 times bigger than Gamepass.

The numbers don't lie. Gamepass is not showing the growth successful sub services show, in revenue or users.

LudicrousSpeed said:

I like how he scoffs at me pointing out that Xbox growth is double digits, as if it should be obvious, when he is the one who said Xbox YoY growth is at single digits.

Again bro, please explain how you can possibly calculate normalized growth when you have zero knowledge of the financials.

You're still failing at math I see.

Xbox rev is reported in FY reports.

Any notable near exponential growth component would easily be spotted breaking a linear trend. Either Gamepass is not making any notable revenue or its not growing as well.....or both.

PS grew 20% this year. Nintendo grew 30%. Xbox with Bethesda acquisition is est to grow 20%. Nothing here suggest some breakout growth.