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curl-6 said:
VAMatt said:

Sure, it was a success in that the industry learned from it, MS learned from it, and MS has remained in the business.

By that metric wouldn't even the Wii U and Vita be successes?

In some sense, yes.  But, it is not clear to me that Sony and Nintendo learned as much from those flops as MS learned from XBone.  The XBone's struggles pushed MS to completely refocus their gaming business.  Sony just stopped doing handhelds, and I don't see that Nintendo really changed anything about how they operate at all.