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Dante9 on 10 September 2021
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Runa216 said:
DraconianAC said:

Dante9, you can believe what they tell you, or you can look at their financial statements. They are making money, lots of money.

The moment you stop giving it to them and they don't go out of their way to please you as a customer, is the moment that they have found a different revenue stream. AMD bought a lot of allocations from TCMZ (7nm), but that doesn't mean they can't re-sell it to a higher bidder. How is this connected to Sony? Well they are not hurting financially, so I'm not so gullible as to take their excuses as fact.

I vote with my purchasing power, and I find Sony lacking. I've placed my order for a Tesla, and I know I'm in line to get it; I've paid a deposit to secure my place in line. You mean to tell me Sony can't do this?

They can do better, but choose not to because they are comfortable. They were not comfortable back in the days of the PS3. 

I was trying to stay out of this fight because it's a really silly argument...but like, seriously? Sony does NOT want scalpers to be picking the consoles up. Because scalpers do not buy games. The consoles are sold at a loss to sony or if we're lucky a very small benefit...it's the GAMES that make Sony money in the first year or two. And scalpers don't buy games. 

If you genuinely think Sony doesn't care or that there's much of anything they can do that won't get beaten by scalpers (All your suggestions can be mass-enacted by scalpers), then I don't know what to tell ya. You're wrong, and you don't really understand business all that well. 

Sony is making money because their brand is strong right now, their games are selling, and they've still got a PS4 selling reasonably well. literally the only thing they're benefitting from this scalper situation is the hype that their console is so sought-after that it's got a strong presence on the scalper market. but that benefit would still remain if people who actually wanted the consoles were buying them, with the added bonus of also buying games. 

I don't know what to say, man. 

Thank you, I forgot abut that point completely. As long as there are thousands and thousands of PS5s laying around in scalper facilities, those units are not contributing to game sales, and that's where the real money is for Sony.

No matter how much money a company is making, they will always want more, and right now they are practically losing money on each PS5 that's not in use.