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zorg1000 said:
yo33331 said:

Even with growth it can't answer for more than 10-20M.

And again it's not only me. Many many people though the PS4 will do more. Because this was the natural progress going forward. Sony didn't do price cut nor they sent enough stock. However why we are talking for the PS4 here ?

I am not giving up on my prediction for the switch for 2022. That's it. Case closed.

You still don't get it.

Emerging markets growth isn't referring to overall numbers climbing, it's about the sales curve being different. The economies of those regions grew from the early 00s to the mid 10s so they were able to get PS4 much earlier than they got PS2. This is why PS2 had such long legs while PS4 did not.

Let's look at the overall sales per region for PS/XB consoles

North America

PS2+XB-69.42m

PS4+XBO-70.64m

Europe

PS2+XB-62.45m

PS4+XBO-60.95m

Japan

PS2+XB-23.71m

PS4-XBO-9.50m

Rest of the World

PS2+XB-26.75m

PS4+XBO-25.60m

The fact that PS4+XBO was at or near the level of PS2+XB in each region (excluding Japan) should have been a clear indication that PS4 was not going to have strong legs and it's sales curve was different than PS2.

The reason we are talking about PS4 is that I'm pointing out how a flaw in your analysis led you to come to a false conclusion (not factoring in economic growth in emerging markets over the last ~20 years) and that you are doing the same thing with your Switch prediction (giving PS/XB too much credit when it comes to Nintendo sales).

This is a good point, saturation the world distribution. Nintendo now will dominate East Asia, a sony former territory. Nintendo doesn´t have the same scale distribution as Sony ( Middle East, New Zealand, and India are not in the range of Nintendo, but have some Sony presence for years now). Sony has a brilliant worldwide distribution, the same distribution which the company pulls out Ps2 number because of population growth in some territory. Sony doesn´t expand the market( likewise Nintendo, bring former games and new gamers of the mix, only supply all the market with the same profile). Because of this, when you have some competition, you may lose some position. Xbox one has a better position on this than Orignal Xbox, and Sony decreased in Japan territory( the second big market) denote this trend.