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Torillian said:
Jaicee said:

When I was a kid, the most controversial feminist in America was a woman named Andrea Dworkin. She passed away in 2005. In the riot grrl scene I was part of, we were divided over her work. What made her so controversial was her anti-pornogrpahy activism. Namely, she advocated for the enactment of a civil ordinance that would allow women who claimed damages from pornography to sue the producers and distributors thereof in court for compensation. (Talk about puritanical tyranny!) I was recently watching a (supportive) film about her activism that was originally released in 1991 for the occasion of its 30th anniversary anew. (Yeah, I do stuff like that.) What struck me the most about it on my new viewing was that it has scarcely aged a day. Some semantics have changed in the interim, but the core arguments you'll hear about porn not only stand the test of time, but are actually more pertinent today, if anything. The crux of her argument wasn't simply that porn causes rape, but that rape and battery are leading causes of pornography; that the sex industry could hardly exist in a world without relatively female-specific PTSD. And you hear from survivors at length. The vast majority of women in pornography were sexually abused and/or battered as children. Thus when we normalize porn, what are we really normalizing? That is the most important issue here as far as I'm concerned and the main, underlying reason why I've got nothing good to say about this business.

I would be interested in seeing your evidence for the bolded. From my quick google the only thing I could find on the stats of child abuse for porn actresses was that they were no more likely to have been abused as a child than the non-porn actress public. We can argue about the legitimacy of a survey study done on 177 porn actresses (a pretty reasonable number for something like this to my understanding) but then I would want to know what study you are using to come to your conclusions. 

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00224499.2012.719168

I sourced all my claims, but to speak to the general body of evidence concerning rates of childhood abuse among women in the sex industry, most of that data comes from background investigations of women involved in or arrested for prostitution, which really is fine because there's a ton of overlap between all sectors of the sex trade and because prostitution is the eventual destination of a large percentage of women in pornography once their brief careers of a few months or so come to an end. There are a ton of those and they establish a clear link between childhood abuse (especially, but not exclusively, sexual abuse) and greater tendency to view sex as a commodity and to wind up in prostitution as a result and aren't confined to the United States either. Examples spanning the years can be found here, here, here, here, here, and lots of other places. They all find that significantly more than half of prostituted women suffered sexual abuse and/or battery as children, and also that women in prostitution are significantly more likely to be impoverished and drug addicts.

No analogous studies have been conducted of women in pornography specifically to my knowledge and the one you link to here is, as you can see here, broadly considered incredulous among experts because its just a survey and not an actual background investigation, because samples of convenience are used, and because one of the co-authors of the study, Sharon Mitchell, as one commenter succinctly puts it, "is a de facto lobbyist for the adult entertainment industry. She used to run AIM, the industry-funded mandatory STD testing service. She has a very personal stake in making the industry look good." The difference becomes clear when you consider that studies of prostituted women can be falsified in the same way if you just rely on surveying a control group. For example, the 2009 study of prostitutes out of Calgary, Alberta linked above finds that "the present study indicates 73% of prostitutes were sexually abused in childhood, compared to 29% of a control group obtained in a random population survey." It's not that these women are even lying necessarily, it's that sexual abuse survivors often don't fully understand what rape and sexual assault even are, as differentiated from consensual sex. I can relate to that personally, as someone who was myself raped as a kid. You'll often respond intellectually by rationalizing it to yourself so that it doesn't seem so bad and resultantly may develop a warped concept of what how sex is supposed to work.

But even if the 2012 survey you link to is fully accurate, it still in reality implies a strong connection between sexual abuse in childhood and increased likelihood of winding up in pornography, as the 36% rate of molestation indicated therein is still double the rate likewise voluntarily reported by American women in general contemporaneously. The only question here is whether it's "only" double. Only. And rape is widely understood as the most under-reported crime there is.

Actual experts widely regard sex commodification and sexual abuse in childhood to be closely linked is my point.

Last edited by Jaicee - on 26 August 2021