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I never liked Apple due to their closed platform in the first place, but for a long time, I considered privacy one of their strong points (kind of). I don't anymore; the potential (i.e. eventual) implications of this range from bad to horrible.

Chazore said:
Zkuq said:

A third party (Nexus Mods) fighting this fight is what bothers me the most. If there's one party that I might kind of be willing to accept to fight this battle, it's the publisher - because the publisher is the one with all the rights. My right then is to consider them a company I don't want to support, but I digress. Anyway, if you want to pick the route where the modders don't have much rights because they're basing their work on someone else's work, I'd say it's up to the party who has the rights - and if modders don't have those rights, Nexus Mods definitely doesn't have them either. From a rights perspective, to me this seems like two third parties fighting.

I might feel otherwise about this had Nexus Mods been like this since the beginning, but this seems to be a change that is retroactively applied to previously uploaded mods as well. This doesn't feel right to me, which is why I'm siding with the modders here, regardless of any long-term consequences this might have. If you want to, you can still back up any mods you have downloaded, and you should definitely do so if you're worried about things in the long term.

Yes I agree, what Nexus is doing is pretty much wrong, and they must be held accountable for their actions and poor choice of "desires" they wish to enact. 

But the one thing that really gets me, is that in order to get them to change course, previous and meaningful content has to be sacrificed, almost forever (since some modders over time have left the scene entirely, taking their mods with them and never seeing re-uploads).

Modders can have rights and they most certainly do, but I know at it's core, they do not have the rights to the games they mod for, and without that game they have no material in which to mod, which means they are only adding to an already existing painting, a canvas if you will. That doesn't mean they get any less credit, it just means they can only go so far with those rights, because you and I, even the mod authors know, that they cannot fight against bethesda to own the rights individually, because that would get laughed straight out of court. 

Nexus shouldn't even have any rights to anything, because they act as a medium, a means of obtaining said mods, and that should always stay at just that, a place to download mods, but not a place to sell them, to claim ownership of addon works.

I agree with what you say, but at the same time, I really dislike seeing great works being lost to time, over something like this, because I know there's other ways of getting Nexus to change course, but this feels so damning, so drastic, to sacrifice good content that may never return, because of a rights issue. 

Could you imagine how bad it would be for example, if the Mona Lisa was stricken from public view, because the owner of the painting or museum didn't agree with the gov establishment it presided in?. It would be devastating to a myriad of people, because they would no longer be able to physically view it (like not being able to access a mod digitally).

It's obvious that Nexus has gotten too big for itself, that it feels it needs to start making more money (Doesn't sound like the fee for increase download speed is paying off for them, and I know because I'll never sub as it is a ripoff and should have never been capped in the first place).

I agree this is a problematic situation. I feel like almost everything has been said about this already, but I'll add that I feel the Mona Lisa comparison to be somewhat flawed. Mona Lisa still exists meaningfully even it's stricken, and it can be restored for the public at some point. Additionally, we're talking not about its creators but its owner, whereas with mods we're talking about creators themselves. It could lead to some interesting discussions, but it doesn't feel relevant to me, so I won't go further down that road.