HOT: "Ghost of Tsushima Director's Cut" for PS5/PS4 in August!!

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SvennoJ said:

I know, I'm just killing time while having a cup of coffee :)

What scares me much more is comments like these (on Eurogamer today)

I don't like to be told what to play but GamePass pays me with reward points for completing Quests to play certain games and I'm complying for once.
So I've been playing GTAV, Quantum Break and other GamePass titles. I'm actually having fun and unlocking achievements along the way.
For Honour and Grounded next. Playing for £5 credit is becoming a fun and rewarding experience so I'm happy.

That's some first class manipulation going on. Just play what the boss wants you to play to be able to keep playing. I guess it's the solution to too much choice... MS does way too much of that conditioning through reward points. A loyalty discount is one thing, but conditioning people to do stuff for rewards, that scares me, for the simple reason that it works all too well with games. I'm glad my oldest isn't chasing nonsense anymore for nonsense Fortnite season passes, that crap was pure evil and induced a lot of stress on him. (They all quit Fortnite for Ark and now trying Rust)

Not entirely sure how this is relevant to the conversation at hand, but I do agree. I always found it weird being told what to play. It's one of the reasons I personally don't like GamePass or PSNow. That's a me thing, though. I know it has value to others. 

And going back to Mr. Idontwannapay10bucksfornewfeaturesonanextgenupgrade, the fact that he doesn't want to pay the 10 is fine. To be clear. Nobody's obligated to pay that 10 bucks. Vote with your wallet and all that. I'd rather spend the money and encourage more devs to give us these incremental upgrades rather than discourage them from trying or just making us pay from the ground up (like, to get GoT director's cut, just buy the new version. That used to be how it was instead of upgrading your existing one). Paying 10 for the upgrade is a nice middle ground between the two extremes. Free upgrades are nice for the consumer but can't be all that sustainable for the devs and doesn't give them much incentive to go above and beyond. Having to re-buy from scratch is great for devs but terrible for consumers. Paying a nominal fee for the upgrade just makes the most sense in terms of balance. 

And since the PS5 is backwards compatible, like you and many others have said, with GoT in particular already getting a bunch of sweet upgrades and performance boosters free of charge, if he doesn't want the Ps5 version, just don't buy it. If the general consensus is that people don't wanna pay for the upgrades, then that's how the market will change. that's the crux of 'the customer is always right'. It doesn't mean every customer is right about whatever nonsense they feel entitled to, it means that it's the job of the providers to cater to the audience and the market. If we collectively reject $10 upgrades or the $70 price point on PS5 games, then the market will adjust. As it stands, I get the distinct impression that the market accepts the upgrade. Entitled gamers (The loud ones we deal with on this forum) are all having a meltdown, but the general market is fine with it. 

Like The Last of Us part II, the only reason people think it did poorly is because a certain, very loud subset of people were very vocal about it. IT actually got amazing reviews and sold very well. IT's like Captain Marvel and The Witcher and every other nonsense fake outrage BS. IT's a small, tiny group of bitchy people whining until they get their way by pretending shit matters more than it does. 

In reality, I just wanna let him (And the others in this thread who agree with that stance) have his tantrum before he takes a breath and realizes it's not that big of a deal. 

I just wanna make it clear that there's absolutely nothing unethical, unprecedented, or unreasonable about companies charging 10 bucks for their more improved versions of the games they make. If that's just better graphics and performance, then so be it. If that's haptic feedback and adaptive triggers, then so be it. If that's just a 5 on the logo, then that's their decision. It's simply up to you and I and everyone else to vote with your wallet. Nobody's entitled to shit, if you don't like the business practices or the charge, you are not obligated to pay for it. Games are a luxury. Either pay what they ask or don't. but don't rant and whine because the dev/publisher values their work more than you do. 

Example: I personally think iPhones are an absolutely terrible value for what they offer. I think you pay like 50% more just for that logo. Instead of whining to apple and complaining they price their phones too high, I simply move on, buy something else, and accept that for the millions and millions of people worldwide, their prices are fair and reasonable. The free market can certainly be shifty and harmful, but when it comes to luxury items, it's never unfair.