'Heartbreaking' conditions in US migrant child camp

[Mr Puggsly]

Machiavellian said:

Mr Puggsly said:

So I was talking to a TSA guy, works at a major airport. Black guy, I know he likes Obama. And he was talking to me about how crazy it is at the moment because we (the country) are letting in so many illegals, hundreds at a time. The government pays to fly them (and their family) to wherever they are going. Essentially they will get a court hearing but can live in the countries potentially for years before that happens. Before they had to stay in their country. He said this situation is something Trump did right. I told him this is a good way to win elections in the future though, he was surprised because that made sense to him. He replied, "I didn't even consider the long term plan."

"So what particular policy that has lowered the quality of life that have come from the Dems." The sudden rise in cost of living and it will continue because their policies require it. That we can absolutely credit the current administration for. However, dems in a general are doing a great job lowering quality of life locally.

I just say enough to light a fire. Now again I will wait for your complaints about GOP and praising cheap/exploited labor.

I just want to make sure I understand correctly.  So with President Biden, there was a policy change where if you are an illegal immigrant who cross the boarder illegally, you are flown to any state you want and you can wait within the US for years until your court date.  You get to live your life like nothing happen and you are not detained within a holding facility (pretty much a prison).  I want to be sure I am getting your claim correctly because I do not want to put words in your mouth.  So you are saying that under Trump, those illegal immigrants were sent back to their country to wait for a court date is that correct.  

If that is correct, can you ask your black TSA friend what is the name of that policy that changed that under Biden because from my first hand knowledge I am going to have to call BS.

First and foremost, there is no change as far as illegal immigrants who get caught in the US illegally.  You still get held by ICE and you still get sent to a detention facility until your court date.  Yes, it could take years before your court date but its not like you are living in some city while this is going on, you are basically still in jail.

What your friend may be talking about is when someone comes to the boarder and seek asylum.  This is not illegal immigration since they did not cross the boarder illegally.  In this respect the Trump Administration instituted the MPP or The Migrant Protection Protocols.  This is the policy that says if you came into the US from somewhere seeking asylum then you stay there until your court date.  This policy was changed under the Biden Administration but then again this is not illegal immigration.  

I believe you really need to understand the difference between someone seeking asylum and someone just crossing the boarder illegally because the 2 are not the same.

Ideally you throw them out. Not give them and their family a free trip. I mean what Biden is doing is nice, but it doesn't benefit the country and clearly encourages more people to come. I guess that's fine if that's actually what you want. Meanwhile you get the Vice President to say "don't come" while doing the exact opposite of discouraging them.

"Yes, it could take years before your court date but its not like you are living in some city while this is going on, you are basically still in jail." Sure, they spend years in, "jail." I would consider you naive if you really believe that. A better holding facility would be their home country, ya know... if you actually wanted to discourage this crap. On a side note, we don't get everyone coming in. I assure you the current administration isn't hunting people down either.

Coming from a poor or somewhat dangerous country should not even be entertained for asylum. That's simply much of the world or democrat run cities.

I think you're leaning into semantics. I understand not all people coming over is equal or how its done. Either way, all of this is a burden on the country. Security is poor, it will be a drain on resources, after years of waiting people also become entitled to stay (but you know this). Flooding the country with many people is the real intent and its gonna lower quality of life. I honestly don't fear this regardless if that's constantly suggested. Again, I laugh at the suffering lefty ideas have brought, its very deserved. When I see the murder rates and crime is rising, I get comfort knowing its hurting left wing voters most.

Although, I want to make one thing clear. I do credit the democrats for actually doing something great in recent time. Gun sales have gone up significantly, so has gun owners. As a pro gun person, that's always a good thing. I do wish dems would do more about violent criminals with guns, but that would put many democrat supporters in jail.

Last edited by Mr Puggsly - on 09 July 2021