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Machiavellian on 09 July 2021
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Mr Puggsly said:
Machiavellian said:

Again, what specific policy caters to illegals.  Its very easy to make up these type of opinion comments but I would really like to see the policy that shows this to be true.

I prefer you show me boarder crime is on the rise.  You keep making this claim but it seems when asked for the stats, well you seem to go somewhere else.  I understand when its pure opinion, stats are a hassle and get in the way.

So what particular policy that has lowered the quality of life that have come from the Dems.  I am more than willing to listen to as I am not a Dem nor do I believe everything from the each party is golden.  What I do like is when someone can bring concrete examples instead of just pure opinion to the table.  Lets take our example as blue cities and people leaving because of failed policy but then again why are the most federal dependent states, meaning the ones who have the most poverty and people on welfare are red states.  The thing is, you can always find some issue with any particular state and any particular policy from both parties.  The difference is that if you only just listen to one side, all you get is partisan rhetoric.

Again, if you do not want a debate then you probably should not share your opinion.  I am more than happy to have my opinion challenge and if I am wrong then I have learned something.  If you want to be the person who drop their opinion and peace out, then you probably should not reply to anyone challenging your opinion, that way you never have to worry about if what you believe is correct. 

So I was talking to a TSA guy, works at a major airport. Black guy, I know he likes Obama. And he was talking to me about how crazy it is at the moment because we (the country) are letting in so many illegals, hundreds at a time. The government pays to fly them (and their family) to wherever they are going. Essentially they will get a court hearing but can live in the countries potentially for years before that happens. Before they had to stay in their country. He said this situation is something Trump did right. I told him this is a good way to win elections in the future though, he was surprised because that made sense to him. He replied, "I didn't even consider the long term plan."

"So what particular policy that has lowered the quality of life that have come from the Dems." The sudden rise in cost of living and it will continue because their policies require it. That we can absolutely credit the current administration for. However, dems in a general are doing a great job lowering quality of life locally.

I just say enough to light a fire. Now again I will wait for your complaints about GOP and praising cheap/exploited labor.

I just want to make sure I understand correctly.  So with President Biden, there was a policy change where if you are an illegal immigrant who cross the boarder illegally, you are flown to any state you want and you can wait within the US for years until your court date.  You get to live your life like nothing happen and you are not detained within a holding facility (pretty much a prison).  I want to be sure I am getting your claim correctly because I do not want to put words in your mouth.  So you are saying that under Trump, those illegal immigrants were sent back to their country to wait for a court date is that correct.  

If that is correct, can you ask your black TSA friend what is the name of that policy that changed that under Biden because from my first hand knowledge I am going to have to call BS.

First and foremost, there is no change as far as illegal immigrants who get caught in the US illegally.  You still get held by ICE and you still get sent to a detention facility until your court date.  Yes, it could take years before your court date but its not like you are living in some city while this is going on, you are basically still in jail.

What your friend may be talking about is when someone comes to the boarder and seek asylum.  This is not illegal immigration since they did not cross the boarder illegally.  In this respect the Trump Administration instituted the MPP or The Migrant Protection Protocols.  This is the policy that says if you came into the US from somewhere seeking asylum then you stay there until your court date.  This policy was changed under the Biden Administration but then again this is not illegal immigration.  

I believe you really need to understand the difference between someone seeking asylum and someone just crossing the boarder illegally because the 2 are not the same.