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Bofferbrauer2 said:
src said:

Nope still is. Amusing how you conveniently left the rest of the sentence: in AAA games.

If SK, China and Taiwan want to play COD, GTA, FF, RE, MHW etc etc on console there is only Playstation. PS5 is outpacing PS4 in these places while still being supply constrained.

Sony predicts Y3 for PS5 to be 23 million+ more than PS4 ever could do, further showing notable growth.

Japan's decline is factually miniscule no matter how you spin it. A 5% decline despite being higher in price. WiiU sold 3.3 million LTD. PS4 sold more than 3 times that, what a disingenuous comparison.

Japanese dev support is by standard, like previous gens, industry best on Playstation. The only platform that comes close to amount of Japanese games PS gets is PC.

Agente42 said:

Nonsense. Why? South Korea, China, and Taiwan show this.

Only if you read the data wrong. PS4 is a 7 year old system on the way out. EVen then it showed massive growth from PS3.

PS5 is doing better than PS4, so no, the data shows Playstation continuing to grow in SK, China and Taiwan.

bolded: Why should I have mentioned AAA games in special? Those games rarely showed up in the charts in the last 3 years, and generally were beaten by some Switch games, AAA or otherwise. It's also normal: Those countries have a rather big PC gaming community - and those can have those games too, in more beautiful and more fluid no less. So there's very little incentive to buy a console specifically for those games unless they're PS exclusives.

Italic: More expensive than the PS3? Which of the two launched at $600 again?? Yes, PS dropped below $300 late in it's life, but by that point, the PS3 was already on the way out sales-wise and it didn't change the sales all too much anymore. Which is also most probably the reason why the PS4 didn't get a pricecut late in it's life anymore.

On Japanese sales: You're saying the decline is negligible because you're only looking at the absolute numbers. And from that very specific and narrow point of view, you're correct. But by doing so, you willingly miss the big picture. And relative to the total sales of the console, the decline is big, and Japan sales became an even smaller fraction of the total sales than they already were.

Underscored: Dude, the trend was already starting 3 years ago, when the PS4 was near it's peak. You're reading the data wrong because you're apparently only comparing to the PS3 (which makes the PS4 look good by comparison) and completely dismissing the Switch despite the latter having outsold the PS4 in those regions. And no, not just last year, that's been much longer in the making.

Please tell me where you have found GTAV, COD etc LTD sales numbers in South Korea, Taiwan and China? Software sales reported by system have been good on PS4 despite being an old system and in a region where console gaming is growing massively.

Not everyone wants to play on PC, and this is shown as console gaming is becoming ever more popular in those regions.

PS3 went down to $199, while PS4 stayed at $299. PS4 did not get a price cut because Sony decided so. Its been able to sell 120M. Could it have sold more at $199? Obviously but Sony prefers higher profits than PS4 selling to 130M.

You seem to be struggling with the concept that Playstation is still growing. PS5 will have higher peaks and more software/hardware sales than PS4's peak. Nintendo may be the market leader like in Japan, but Playstation still has a significant marketshare that is unrivalled as Xbox is non existent in Asia.

TheBraveGallade said:
src said:

Nope still is. Amusing how you conveniently left the rest of the sentence: in AAA games.

If SK, China and Taiwan want to play COD, GTA, FF, RE, MHW etc etc on console there is only Playstation. PS5 is outpacing PS4 in these places while still being supply constrained.

Sony predicts Y3 for PS5 to be 23 million+ more than PS4 ever could do, further showing notable growth.

Japan's decline is factually miniscule no matter how you spin it. A 5% decline despite being higher in price. WiiU sold 3.3 million LTD. PS4 sold more than 3 times that, what a disingenuous comparison.

Japanese dev support is by standard, like previous gens, industry best on Playstation. The only platform that comes close to amount of Japanese games PS gets is PC.

Agente42 said:

Nonsense. Why? South Korea, China, and Taiwan show this.

Only if you read the data wrong. PS4 is a 7 year old system on the way out. EVen then it showed massive growth from PS3.

PS5 is doing better than PS4, so no, the data shows Playstation continuing to grow in SK, China and Taiwan.

uh why would the peole want to play this on console?

most serious gamers in these reigions are likely to own a half decent gaming rig anyway. and switch is an EXCELLENT compliemtary second device to any primary one.

Ask that to the 120M PS4 players. People play on consoles for numerous reasons: its simple, convenient, easy to set up and maintain, exclusives, its cheaper etc etc

Playstation continues to show big growth in these countries so clearly not.