Playstation IR 2021 info (women, UC4 PC, 48 mil ps+, PS5 profits???)

[DonFerrari]

zero129 said:

mjk45 said:

They have to take into account the value of 1st party to the platform and its more than just looking at the numbers sold compared to 3rd party it differentiates the platform, and in this day and age of playstation plus subs and locking people into your ecosystem this is important , as to ROI one of the reasons for those high returns is games like Days Gone have gone through the pricing cycle so there isn't much if any Sony side sales lost from these ports and have you thought just maybe they prioritise keeping people engaged with the PS ecosystem and not so much attracting PC users, because moving a series fully across onto PC gives less incentive to get a Playstation, this isn't a MS and gamepass situation.

People are still buying Days Gone on PS4-5 i bet. Same with Horizon 1 etc. the value of Sonys IP's doesnt just vanish if they have them exclusive to their box but also playable on PC after a year or 2. And once Sony finally fully turns PSNow into their own PC Store expect to be waiting even less then a year for them games as they will want to show how their digital store is more value then the rest.

DonFerrari said:

Of course it will make a difference, because that person may decide to get PS, Xbox or Nintendo, so showing the IPs and enticing that player may bring him to PS.

ROI is 250% just because the cost to port is minimal so even few sales would cover it with 250% up. Even if that means just 500k sales on PC versus 20M on PS. And nowhere would Sony jeopardize those 20M sales on PS to perhaps increase sales on PC from 500k to 2M together with losing HW sales with people that could decide that if PS won`t have exclusives them they can go PC only.

No it wont make much difference if any at all. A PC user who doesnt own a console from last gen and doesnt plan on owning one this gen isnt going to run out and buy a console for a few exclusives if they never had any interest in one in the first place. For PC users who wanted a console anyways for the sitting room, bedroom whatever etc they are still most likely going to want one as its not only or even the exclusives for them its having an extra system in the house or for the kids. the other ones that want to own a console along with a PC will already pretty much know/have what consoles they want be it a PS5/Switch/XBSX.

Maybe some of the 3rd group wont want one any longer but you can bet them users are tiny in the big picture of things when it comes to PC.

He didn`t say people aren`t buying HZD or any other game on PS4 or PS5, what he said is that they aren`t games pushing HW sales.

Again, if they have a PC as main and also want a console, the exclusives on that console will matter and Sony intention is to expose some IPs on PC to convince those gamers. But sure you may disagree from Sony saying it so themselves.