Non-Americans Stunned By American Health Care Costs

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Mr Puggsly said:

sundin13 said:

Again, if you want to see what Biden promised, look at what he said, not what you assume he said.

As for whether "the compromise was shit" with Obamacare, you have still provided no evidence of that. The trajectory of health care spending didn't significantly change from Obamacare, however if you look at the size of the uninsured population, it dropped from about 17% when the healthcare exchanges were opened to about 11% when Trump took office. In other words, the costs were virtually unchanged on the whole, while we were able to ensure about 1/3 of the uninsured population. That seems like a solid "compromise" to me.

Many got insured with underwhelming insurance options because it was either dirt cheap FOR SOME and for a period required. It wasn't always considered great insurance by the way. There was actually a massive penalty/tax for not getting healthcare, but that was removed during the Trump administration and that is something people on both sides were happy with.

But again, a big problem was it raised the costs of premiums and that's partly because people had to cover for this getting it for free or for those who qualified for a big subsidy.

Two things can be true at the same. You can say Obama care was great because it got more people covered. But at the same time it also fucked a lot or normal working people not necessarily making much. I was affected first hand and cancelled my insurance at the time because of it.

You are aware that the Trump administration did this so insurance companies could throw people out of their insurance plans with impunity and as a stepping stone to repeal medicare and replacing it with nothing? The result was that many persons, specially poor people, had much more problems to get any insurance anymore.

As explained above, the raising cost of premiums is just due to bloated administration. If the private insurance system would actually work, their prices would be way, way lower.

Also, consider this: If your utopia of private healthcare would beat public healthcare in every which way, then how come that medicare is even a thing? If everything would be so as you're describing it to be with a private system, then the prices would be lower than in Europe, everybody would be very well insured, and medicare would have been put out of office as it couldn't compete with private companies and went poof somewhere along the way. But in reality, none of those are even remotely true or happening in any shape or form, and have no chance of doing so ever.