Non-Americans Stunned By American Health Care Costs

[Mr Puggsly]

sundin13 said:

Mr Puggsly said:

Many have talked about as healthcare as right (i.e. socializing healthcare) or lowering the costs. I think it especially matters when the current president has said these things.

Remember, even Obama's big promise was lowering the costs of healthcare. Instead his big changes increased prices for your normal working person.

The current president is not for Universal Healthcare.

As for Obama, healthcare spending did not explode under Obamacare. The growth in health spending decreased several percentage points in the 2010s compared to the '90s and the '00s and is now close to being in line with GDP growth. What Obamacare succeeded in doing was getting millions of new people enrolled in the healthcare system and the fact that it managed that while slowing health care spending growth should very much be lauded. Obviously big changes are necessary, but you have to keep in mind that Obamacare was very much a compromise bill, and it was not purely the vision of Democratic lawmakers.

EDIT: Also, I think it is very important to remember what the healthcare policy has been for the leading party for the past four years. Repeal and....we'll figure something else out later. Is it really a surprise that we don't have M4A?

Healthcare is a right actually means socializing healthcare. Everybody saying it knows that, but its possible Biden doesn't know that given he's possibly senile.

My main point about Obama was he boasted he was going lower healthcare premiums. Essentially the compromise is making things more affordable. When Obamacare passed I actually cancelled my insurance because it became too expensive. Shit like that is why there was a backlash towards Obama. Your graph doesn't reflect that. But it was common knowledge this was happening, when it was supposed to be the opposite.