| The_Liquid_Laser said: RFA is definitely pulling in people from the Wii. I'll give you that. However, that is the only Switch game pulling the new gamers from the Wii. It also isn't even in the top 10 yet. Perhaps 7m out of the 80m Switch owners are actually new gamers from the Wii. That is still less than 10% of the base. The Wii crowd is not the reason why the Switch is so successful. - The top-sellers list doesn't mean much until the end of the gen. If RFA sells 20m and Just Dance 2023 sells 10m but the top sellers are Odyssey and GTA5 at 50m, that doesn't mean the casuals didn't come back and add to Switch's success. Just Dance...do you have sales numbers for this? I would love to know how much Just Dance is selling on the Switch. - I'm using the UK Amazon charts (baby seals be damned) and doing like for like comparisons between Switch 2019/2020 and Wii 2009/2010. The order is different but the same games are there (excl Wii Sports Resort). Mario Kart is what Nintendo called a bridge game. It appeals both to new gamers and also to really experienced gamers. It can be hard to tell where those sales are coming from. What I can tell you, for sure, is that Mario Kart was the most popular game on both the Wii U and the 3DS. It is also currently the most popular game on the Switch. It was not the most popular game on the Wii. Wii Sports was by far the most popular game. - Mario Kart is set to hit unprecedented numbers. You'd have to combine Mario Kart Wii and DS to beat MK8D sales assuming MK9 doesn't arrive soon. MK also brought back the wheel in a 2-pack, added auto-steer and auto-accelerate. That wasn't for experienced players. It is disingenuous to say the Switch is like the Wii and unlike the Wii U and 3DS. The top 10 on the Switch looks a whole closer to the top 10 on the Wii U and 3DS than it does the top 10 on the Wii. Here take a look. - It's disingenuous to say Switch has an overly complicated control system when it's just 2 x upgraded Wiimotes, 2 x SNES/PS1 controllers or an upgraded Wiimote-Nunchuk combo. ARMS controls are similar to Wii Boxing, Mario Tennis/Golf have the same MC option as Wii Tennis/Golf and Bowling in 51 Clubhouse Games controls similarly to Wii Bowling. The touchscreen tablet form factor and familiarity is arguably just as accessible as a TV remote and IR sensor bar given the prevalence of smart devices today. This idea that the Switch is selling because it pulled in the Wii gamers that the 3DS and Wii U missed is very much like forcing a square peg into a round hole. These "new" sales the Switch is getting are not coming from the Wii. The extra sales are coming from the PS4 and XB1 crowd. The PSP was essentially a portable PS2. The Switch is essentially a portable PS4, except you can also play it on a TV just fine and it has all of Nintendo's fantastic first party games. Twilight Princess was a launch title, but it did not make it into the Wii's top 10. On the other hand BotW seems to just keep selling. This is not a game for the Wii crowd. It most definitely is a game for PS4 and XB1 gamers. - I think you're falling into the trap of believing the Wii's success was primarily due to Wii Sports. Wii Sports was bundled everywhere except Japan and it isn't the highest selling Wii game there. Do you think Wii's sales would have been badly hurt if Wii Sports would have been delayed for 2 years but we got Wii Fit and motion controlled Mario Tennis, Golf, Bowling at launch instead?
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Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)
Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!
